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The past few years have made me even more aware of racial injustice.


From current events such as Charlottesville, the killing of unarmed black men, and various other forms of prejudice; to my personal experience as a minority and working with other minorities at school and work. Ever since my university days I've always been aware of the plight of racial minorities, but it was an only an afterthought. But with these happenings I'm even more conscious about them.

I am Filipino-American (Asian), and sometimes we Filipinos can be ignorant about the circumstances of minorities such as other Asians, blacks, Hispanics, and Native Americans. We might occasionally forget that racism exists because we haven't experienced it overtly. But the ignorant, unjust and cruel actions of some white people have made me question that thought. Plus, bonding with my fellow classmates, co-workers, and students has made me relate more to historically disadvantaged minorities, more so in my current job as a math and science community college tutor.

I feel more enlightened because of these recent circumstances. Obviously, prejudice can't be solved quickly but I believe that we can suppress this by learning about other people, especially not those of your own group.

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Interesting. Maybe you can tell me why I, as a white man, have been persecuted relentlessly since my teens for BEING A WHITE MAN?!!
I'm sick of it.
I'm not prejudiced in any sense. Being born and raised in the Army, the ONLY color is GREEN!
I'm concerned with the entire package, the inner person. My friends, lovers, my Family consists of all creeds and colors, religious and sexual preferences, republican, democrat, independent, black, white, brown, yellow, green, purple and blue!!!!
And yet all my life - All My Life! - worthless hypocrites have tried to run me down and talk shit about who they THINK I am.
I'm not changing for anyone. And if no one else likes it I cordially invite them to have anatomically impossible sex with themselves.

Sorry, man.
That's been festering for a long time.

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I think the difference is that in Western countries, white people are the dominant group who have the political, social, and economic power. That's why the n-word has more power than whatever slur they have for white people. White people aren't victimized for their race unlike other races and ethnicities. If they feel oppressed, it's because of some other factor.

It's naive to be "color-blind" when color still matters in this day an age. Look at how the coronavirus affects black people more than any other race, for example. Also, minorities are often stereotyped in the media (usually in a negative manner.) Because there are less of us, white people tend to make assumptions about minorities based on what happens in the media.

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Did I actually say anything?

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"White people aren't victimized for their race". Ask the 80 year old that got punched in the face 50 times by a black supremacist in a nursing home a few weeks ago, how he feels about that statement. Black on white racism doesn't exist in your mind because it's never given media coverage because it doesn't fit the black victimization agenda of mainstream media.

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Okay, I agree there is anti-white racism. But the black supremacist wasn't a cop or any form of authority, he was a civilian attacking another civilian. It is more of a concern when government-backed groups threaten the lives of their constituents - they are using the law to justify their behavior.

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Agreed. Trumpers will never admit the institution favors white people/culture though. All they can do is deflect by saying black people kill more black people than white people do. This similar incident happened to Eric Garner a few years ago. There was a football player peacefully protesting it by kneeling during the anthem. Trumpers had a big problem with that too.

All Trumpers want is for people to not talk about the institutional problems that black people face.

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I don't get why it shouldn't be though. It WAS technically all white until they brought along the slaves and diversity. I think it happens to any country that is pre-dominantly the race of that country be it in China or Japan or other. Heck even now in India they wanna ban Muslims. It's been like this through the test of time. This whole equality thing is just an imaginative dream imo. I do believe though we should at least level the playing field a bit to give people with skill the chance to rise. Equal opportunity not equity of outcome.

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I'm not buying it.

The left says there is systemic racism.
The right says nah it's your imagination, and you are the racist one for mentioning it.
Then systemic racism shows its face.
Now the right says "ok its a problem but there's nothing we can do about it" ?

It's the same damn thing with climate change. The left talks about it. The right calls it a hoax. Then we see the results of it. Then the right says its too late.

The only reason why nothing gets fixed, Rorikon, is because of the right wing.

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"I don't get why it shouldn't be though. It WAS technically all white until they brought along the slaves and diversity".

Native Americans say hello...

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"White people aren't victimized for their race unlike other races and ethnicities."

Then you haven't been paying attention. Every news channel constantly treats whites like they're the scum of the earth. Especially white men--they're THE WORST! 🙄
Whites aren't allowed to be proud of being white, either. Any other ethnicity can be though. Whites are always being told they're "privileged" with no proof of any such thing other than their skin color. 🙄 They're also told that we don't understand what it's like to be black or brown so zip the lip!
Well, we can tell them that they have no idea what it's like to be white! The race that is truly attacked on a regular basis for their skin color. But no, we have to be quiet, bow down because black people were slaves waaayyyyy before they were born and they're suffering for it (and apparently us whites who are living now had slaves!)

What's worse is that soooo many whites plead guilty for being white and allow others to walk all over them for something they have no control over. It's pathetic.

True racism is an ugly thing. I'm totally against it. But the term "racism" has been so watered down over the decades and we're at a point where it has no meaning.
I'm a person who looks at everyone as an individual and base them on their character. The last thing I judge someone on is their color.

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Now I'd like to reply to the rest of your post.

"I think the difference is that in Western countries, white people are the dominant group who have the political, social, and economic power. That's why the n-word has more power than whatever slur they have for white people."

We have a wide spectrum of races and genders in every occupation from politicians to doctors to lawyers to teachers to news anchors to actors! I think this is another narrative that is pushed by the left to keep pushing for "equal rights."
As far as the n-word, I don't like it, nor do I use it. I rarely hear anyone using it in my personal life however, I do hear black people using it quite often. In fact, I'm pretty sure one of the onlookers during the Floyd killing it was said.

"It's naive to be "color-blind" when color still matters in this day an age. Look at how the coronavirus affects black people more than any other race, for example."

It has affected them more from what we're told but are you claiming the Coronavirus itself is racist?! At the heart of the lockdown, black people were gathering in large groups in Chicago without a care in the world. They were still shooting each other too. But the mayor kept preaching how we need to get the word to them. That they were at greater risk. Yet they had access to the reports just the same as anyone else. They just weren't heeding the warnings. Yet it became a thing we had to be preached about day in and day out. Chicago news pounds racism into the heads of their viewers regularly. They even managed to give the impression COVID19 a racist virus!🙄

"Also, minorities are often stereotyped in the media (usually in a negative manner.)"

That's too much of a blanket statement to comment on.

"Because there are less of us, white people tend to make assumptions about minorities based on what happens in the media."

I think that's what they want you to think. In reality, they protect minorities.

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Regarding both of your posts:

White people aren't treated as the scum of the earth. White people are celebrated in the media. They just don't say it directly. Look at how both white men and white women are the standard of beauty in the media. Most of the popular celebrities are white. Just because there are pride months for other races doesn't mean that whites are ignored, far from it. Even history books are white-centric and avoid the accomplishments of other races.

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I never said whites were ignored. I do think some want us to disappear off the face of the planet though.

Whites are the standard of beauty?! Is that why People's Sexiest Man has had 2 black men on their cover the past couple years?
Do you see the way they trip over themselves over Lupita Nyong'o, Beyonce, Michelle Obama, Oprah, Jennifer Lopez, Rihanna, Meghan Markle, etc.? Do you want male examples too?

Speaking of pride months for other races, where is "white history month?" Could you imagine the outrage and backlash even suggesting such a thing?!
Or how about just "American History Month?" Toss race to the side and give credit where credit is due. That's what I'd like to see.

Why did the blacks cry about the Oscars being "too white" a couple years ago? Um maybe because there weren't as many movies that year with blacks in it.
Could you imagine a white person saying the Oscars were "too black?" The outrage there would be!
Why can't movies just be movies? Why does EVERYTHING have to be even Steven and political?

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A few things:

1. There are some anti-white racists who do want to exterminate white people, but that's not representative of the whole population. Most simply just want to co-exist.

2. There may be some black icons, but still the overwhelming majority of models and actors/actresses are white. Even then I'm sure for those black people that are admired, people also take into account their personality, not just their looks. (That doesn't mean they aren't visually stunning, it's also their personality also makes them shine.) This is opposed to many white icons who are admired and revered just for their looks.

3. Even if you discount the previous point, People magazine is only one source. Still the overwhelming standard of physical beauty are white people. White men and women are the most sought after partners in dating sites by everyone for example. White people in a lot of commercials. White people everywhere in the media.

4. Every month is "white history month". White American accomplishments are always celebrated.

5. It will never be the case where the Oscars are too black, unless black people become the political and social majority in the West.

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"1. There are some anti-white racists who do want to exterminate white people, but that's not representative of the whole population. Most simply just want to co-exist."
Agreed. But that same sentiment goes both ways.

"2. There may be some black icons, but still the overwhelming majority of models and actors/actresses are white."

Maybe that's because there are more whites. Which it's the likely reason why more whites are killed by cops than blacks are.

"Even then I'm sure for those black people that are admired, people also take into account their personality, not just their looks. (That doesn't mean they aren't visually stunning, it's also their personality also makes them shine.) This is opposed to many white icons who are admired and revered just for their looks."

I hope that's taken into account by all sides. The ones they TELL us are beautiful, all too often I completely disagree! Like Julia Roberts for example. 😝 But many you may be thinking of may have just been around much longer so they get attention because they're well known.

"3. Even if you discount the previous point, People magazine is only one source."
It was just an example.

"Still the overwhelming standard of physical beauty are white people."
I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. Maybe at one time that was true, but not anymore. But beauty is subjective.

"White men and women are the most sought after partners in dating sites by everyone for example."
I wouldn't know. Been married for almost 3 decades. Maybe more white people go on those sites?

"White people in a lot of commercials."
So are minorities.

"White people everywhere in the media."
So are minorities.

"4. Every month is "white history month". White American accomplishments are always celebrated."
I was waiting for this one. That is FALSE. Even if a white was celebrated, it wouldn't be because of their "whiteness." In fact, their race wouldn't even be mentioned.
Continued...

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Continued...

"5. It will never be the case where the Oscars are too black, unless black people become the political and social majority in the West."

My point was, if something like that was said by whites, there would be an outrage.

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No disrespect, but I just wanted to point out that, according to several articles I've recently read, the main group in the US affected by covid-19 is actually Native Americans.

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Perhaps, but black people are still affected a great deal than white people, I've heard. And that also shows we can't be race or color blind, anyway.

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Don't be sorry. You've proven to be a wack-a-doo for a long time. Calling out internet posters to some back-alley brawl, that's when I totally lost respect.
Although that's not true, since I've seen your posts for longer than that, and always shook my head at how shallow and self-pitying they are. Talk about "ignore"? Who need to read this egocentric whining on a regular basis?
Sorry, man.
That's been festering for a long time.

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I'm so sorry you feel that way, Snotz. Perhaps we should meet so you can insult me in person.
On a completely and totally unrelated subject... how's your dental insurance? All paid up, I hope.

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But he's deserving of the pity, dontchya know? He's such a macho but tragic, broken down badass.
https://moviechat.org/general/General-Discussion/5de5b70e611e8a04a4ba7ccf/Pain-Meds

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You can suppress the ignorance by not judging an entire race by the actions of one.

OJ Simpson isn’t all black people. The cop who killed Floyd isn’t all white people.

This kind of racial generalization is a tool used by those in charge to push political agendas. Agendas that exploit those they claim to help and have been claiming to help since the 1960s.

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I suppose that's true, but it still stands that many white people harbor negative attitudes towards minorities. Like I said to Cruz, minorities are more prone to being stereotyped.

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Look up the FBI statistics on policy brutality by race. It’ll blow your mind.

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A few years ago a white man was killed by cops in almost the same way as Floyd, except if anything it was even worse.

https://townhall.com/columnists/mikeadams/2020/06/02/white-man-cant-breathe-n2569897

There were no riots. No protests. It wasn't even national news. Because he was white.

Don't buy lying media narratives. The truth is the most discriminated against group in 21st Century America are whites. From affirmative action laws/policies, to societal double standards (acceptable language, racially chauvinistic channels, dating sites, college clubs, pageants, "History" months, etc.), to it literally being Twitter policy that it's not "ok to be white" (if you post that the post will be deleted and your account may be suspended, but if you replace "white" with any other color it's fine), whites are the one race it's ok to demean or attack.

Whites are far more likely to be murdered by blacks than vice versa. It's not even close. So who's "hunting" whom? Yet news outfits, including Fox, only racialize headlines one way (e.g. "White cop shoots unarmed black man"). Several academic studies in recent years have debunked all of the lies Black Lives Matters is founded on, for instance finding that whites are more likely to be shot by police than blacks are when you control for interactions. White people are certainly harassed and mistreated by the small percentage of cops who are bad. Even some Republican politicians, like Marco Rubio, have been suckered into the myth that if some cop acts like a dick to him it must be because of his race. Nope. That happens to white people too.

Don't assume that it's necessarily racial if the person you feel is mistreating you happens to be white. That's another form of anti-white prejudice. While everyone agrees the cop was wrong to kneel on Floyd so long, I've seen no evidence it was racially motivated. The BLM riots, by contrast, are explicitly racial.

Occasionally there will be an act of real racial discrimination, especially against whites due to the top down policies I mentioned, but Americans overall are as decent and tolerant as any people who have ever existed.

At least be skeptical of media narratives, and instead of judging people by their skin color treat people as individuals.



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Another BRILLIANT post by krl!!!!😎

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See my reply to Cruz and Gd for this. But yes I agree you should be skeptical. I try to be, but of everything.

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White people aren't victimized for their race unlike other races and ethnicities.

Did you read our posts? White people are the only race it's ok to victimize by explicit policy, and attacks on white people are pervasive in society, pushed by the media and other PTB. Bigoted phrases like "white privilege" and "person of color" (a pet peeve not only because it's designed to exclude and marginalize whites while bestowing special dignity to non-whites, but because it's scientifically ass backwards) are tossed around daily by those with the loudest megaphones, including "educators". An entire generation of white kids have been brainwashed into believing there is something inherently wrong and villainous about them because of their skin color.
It's naive to be "color-blind" when color still matters in this day an age.

It's gullible to get suckered into believing that "racism" discussions should occupy one percent of the oxygen and energy they do, at the expense of real, more important issues, both problems and opportunities. Skin color is cosmetic, more important than hair or eye color because it more decisively denotes ancestry, but it shouldn't be one's overarching defining characteristic.

"Color-blind" is a goal, basically meaning you treat people as individuals rather than judging them by their skin color. Anyone can do that. Those who aren't color-blind in that sense are part of the manufactured problem, not the solution.

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Yes, I acknowledged that there is anti-white racism as said to my reply to BillySlater. But as I said to Norma, white people are still celebrated in America, I'd argue even more so than the other races because of their prominence in the media, beauty standards, and history books.

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That´s because the USA is a majority white country. There is no cry for racial diversity in China or African countries because no one cares. And even if you say, well there is a large black population in the US, even blacks have their own benchmark for beauty standards in the media and celebrity culture.

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But since America is a diverse democracy, shouldn't it be more welcoming to its minorities? Any black standards of beauty are influenced by the dominant white culture (hair straightening, for instance.)

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Depends what you mean by "welcoming". I believe all groups should be treated equally. I don´t believe in racial or gender identity quota systems because I believe they do more harm than they do good.

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But since America is a diverse democracy, shouldn't it be more welcoming to its minorities? Any black standards of beauty are influenced by the dominant white culture (hair straightening, for instance.)

Given that human traffic flooding into the country has greatly exceeded the legal limit, which is at global record highs itself, for the better part of half a century, the US has clearly been much too welcoming. Any more welcoming and it would cease to exist. In fact we're almost at that irreversible tipping point now, without immigration reforms, proper enforcement, and time to assimilate the tens of millions of new arrivals like we did from the 1920s through the 1960s.

It's a diverse nation but it's still supermajority white. I'm not sure what the current stats are on tv figures but non-whites are ubiquitous on shows and in commercials. It wouldn't shock me if whites are underrepresented on tv. You act like you don't feel white people should exist.

Remember, no one is forced to immigrate to this country. Traditionally it was the immigrant who was grateful to be in his chosen country and was expected to adapt, not demand that the society that graciously let him in change to suit him. There's been way too much of the latter in recent years.

white people are still celebrated in America, I'd argue even more so than the other races because of their prominence in the media, beauty standards, and history books.

I don't remember ever seeing white people as a group celebrated. Suggesting that could get you banned from Twitter, fired, or expelled from school. Other races are celebrated. Whites are demonized. That's especially true in history books, which have been dumbed down by the Marxists who have seized control of the humanities in recent decades and turned them into New Left indoctrination tools. I'm not sure what books you're referring to.

Meant to reply to this yesterday:
Look at how the coronavirus affects black people more than any other race, for example.

Is the virus attacking them because of their skin color, or because blacks are more likely to live in urban centers, the most densely packed areas and therefore the most vulnerable to communicable diseases?


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1. Too welcoming? How so? There are a lot of deportations of undocumented immigrants going on in America, Europe, and other countries.

2. The ancestors of black Americans were indeed forced to be in this country. Remember something called slavery? Black people have been able to adapt to American life for the most part but it's simply not enough to overcome the institutional prejudice and discrimination going on against them.

3. There's tons of ways white people are celebrated. Sayings like "Blondes have more fun," are "Luck of the Irish", and festivals like Oktoberfest celebrate white culture. And despite people arguing to the contrary, white people still are looked at as the standard of beauty for the West. Yes, white people make up most of the West, but again, a democratic society should be welcoming to even the smallest groups (which I addressed in point one.)

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1. Not enough, given the estimated tens of millions of illegal aliens in the nation. Too welcoming in that a nexus of corrupt establishment interests, Democrats seeking political power and RINOs in the pocket of corporations seeking cheap labor, have encouraged illegal immigration and blocked efforts to end it.

2. White Americans ended slavery in 1865 and the rest of your paragraph is hogwash. Asians, for example, often had it far worse in their home continent within recent decades, facing genocide and communist oppression, and coming from third world countries living a relatively primitive existence to begin with, and have mostly done well for themselves in America. Recent black immigrants also often do well. Even black Americans are the freest and most prosperous blacks in the world. Government policies implemented since the 1960s have arguably trapped them on "liberal plantations", getting them hooked on welfare and incentivizing the destruction of the black family with disastrous sociological consequences, but, as laid out earlier, the institutional discrimination has been in favor of blacks for years.

3. That's not celebrating "whites" as a group the way other races are. Again, you act like you don't believe whites should even exist. I disagree.

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1. Many of these illegal immigrants just want to find jobs in a land of opportunity. They just want to make a living and not cause trouble. They are hard working.

2. Most of the current black Americans are descended from those slaves, though. It would be unreasonable for them to go to Africa which isn't even their home to begin with. I think the reason Asians fared better than black people (for the most part) is their innate hard-working, industrious culture. I would also argue though that African culture of black Americans has been forcefully destroyed by white people through the effects of slavery and discrimination. Whether I think that's the liberals' or conservatives' fault I will not answer.

3. It can be argued that: "why would we need a "white" classification to begin with, anyway"? Europeans have even bickered amongst themselves in the past over who was superior. The Germans, for example, didn't see the Polish as their equals, even though nowadays they would both be considered "white" in America. It's probably better just to celebrate the different heritages of Europe rather than what is "white", which is a vague, subjective term to begin with.

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1. And they suppress wages for Americans while raising general crime rates. A nation has different immigration interests at different points in its history. We don't currently need massive numbers of low skilled workers, especially when Americans are simultaneously being told that such low skilled jobs are largely disappearing due to globalization and new technology. Studies show immigrants also use more welfare than native born Americans. And, due to the breakdown in assimilation due to the country being flooded by record numbers of immigrants in recent decades and leftists opposing the traditional "American Melting Pot" anyway, we're seeing US society coming apart, threatening total dissolution.

America collapsing won't do the rest of the world any favors.

2. Lots of people of all colors are descended from slaves, going back to the Roman Empire. So what? No one serious is calling for black people to "go back to Africa". Of course blacks don't want to leave America because, as I pointed out, blacks in America are freer and more prosperous than anywhere else on earth. I'm not sure what your point is.

You're wrong about the cause. Blacks were strong from a sociological standpoint back when they really were oppressed. The bottom fell out from the 1960s on with the expanded liberal welfare state. The black out of wedlock birthrate increased from around white levels to around 75%, destroying the black family. This effect was even correctly predicted by Dem. scholar Daniel Moynihan. I agree about Asians (at least the unrepresentative, small percent who have immigrated to America), which underscores my point that the problem is subcultural, and not due to anti-black "discrimination". Pro black discrimination is actually doing harm to blacks.

3. I wouldn't single out "white". You can say that about black, brown, yellow, and red too (including the "superior" arguments). Leftists love having "whiteness" around as a permanent villain to demonize though.

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1. But immigrants are still relatively peaceful and hard-working. I don't get where you get those stats about crime rates...I looked in the FBI. Hispanic Americans (I'm sure these are the ones we're talking about here) have crime rates that are far below those of Non-Hispanics.

2. Except Europeans have had a longer time to recover from the effects of their slavery. The Roman Empire fell around 2000 years ago. As said in another post, maybe the effects of housing discrimination have something to do with it.

3. Yes, there are different groups of other skin colors. But, in the West, the majority skin color is white, and because the other skin colors are the minority I think it's okay to lump themselves as one group as opposed to European Americans.

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1. No, the feds traditionally haven't separated Hispanic (ethnicity) and race (black, white), lumping most Hispanics in with "whites". Even to the degree the FBI has tried to track it their data is grossly incomplete. But in recent years there have been various efforts to figure out the Hispanic crime rates, and they increasingly show what anyone who follows the news already knows, that Hispanics commit crime at a lower rate than blacks but a significantly higher rate than non Hispanic whites. I'll quote in particular from this CDC analysis on homicide as a cause of death:

"The rate increased from 2.6 to 2.9 (11.5%) for non-Hispanic whites, from 20.9 to 22.8 (9.1%) for non-Hispanic blacks, and from 4.9 to 5.3 (8.2%) for Hispanics. In both years, the homicide rate for non-Hispanic blacks was approximately eight times the rate for non-Hispanic whites and four times the rate for Hispanics."

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/67/wr/mm6715a8.htm

Some other material:

https://www.amren.com/archives/reports/the-color-of-crime-2016-revised-edition/

https://dailycaller.com/2016/07/13/how-the-federal-government-inflates-crime-statistics-for-whites/


2. Again, blacks had healthier, better functioning families, communities, and even business sectors back when they really were being discriminated against, housing and otherwise. That doesn't justify the discrimination but it does show that modern sociological problems can't be blamed on it.

3. I strongly disagree. It would be better to de-emphasize the importance of race, to stop cultivating racial chauvinism for any color, and to stop demonizing whites as a group to gang up on, cynically manipulating people for strategic political reasons, causing great harm to all groups in the process. What matters is culture, not cosmetic skin color, and people should assimilate into general American culture, which is often wrongly labeled "white" culture.

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Non-whites are not as tolerant to other races as white people are.

East Asian cultures are the most racist ones on the planet.

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Anti-white racism is referred to by the moniker "counter-racism" just to make them feel better about being disgusting prejudiced refugees from the shallow end of the gene pool.

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Well done.

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Ditto! Ditto! Ditto! Let it be told! Shout it from the mountain tops! I should also like to add the inane “Hate Crime” law! It is nothing more than prosecuting *thought*...mostly against whites! Assault is assault. Murder is murder! The Hate Crime law doesn’t make the victim any less assaulted or the murder victim any less dead. Fit the punishment to the crime.

Also, it’s news to me the use of the descriptive word “thug” is a pejorative against blacks. I’m sorry if it acts like a thug...it’s a thug. Be it white, brown, black, purple, yellow, colors of the rainbow! A thug is a thug is a thug!

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Agree completely. It's policing thought to criminalize motive. Different degrees of murder deal with state of mind, not motive per se, and are legitimate. Show up early and find your wife in bed with another man. If you kill them both on the spot that's typically second degree murder. If you quietly exit without them seeing you, and carefully plot their deaths over a period of time, that's first degree murder. In both cases the motive is the same.

But since for now at least we're stuck with "hate crime" laws, they should at least be applied equally, and they aren't.

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"A few years ago a white man was killed by cops in almost the same way as Floyd, except if anything it was even worse.

https://townhall.com/columnists/mikeadams/2020/06/02/white-man-cant-breathe-n2569897

There were no riots. No protests. It wasn't even national news. Because he was white."

I just had a chance to read this article, krl. I had not heard about it. Not even a hint. But wow!

I think this deserves its own thread.

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Go ahead.

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It's done. 👍🏻

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There is no epidemic of racist cops killing unarmed black people. It’s a myth perpetuated by the media and leftists with a political agenda.

https://www.dolanconsultinggroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Dispelling-the-Myths-Surrounding-Police-Use-of-Lethal-Force.pdf

If white people are so cruel and unjust, why does everyone else flock to majority-white countries in droves?

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Majority white countries (Western countries) tend to be wealthy and more democratic.

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Yes. And they're not interested in killing you for being different. They're much more interested in utilizing you for whatever skills you have that might benefit them. And MUCH more willing to help you if you're down.

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If so, then why is America still violent?

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Great question. Most violence is committed by non-whites. Blacks, with 13% of the population, have committed over 50% of the murders over the past few decades. That's a real problem.

One reason BLM is so insidious is because it focuses people's attention on cops killing blacks, the wrongful total of which each year can be counted on one hand, a fake problem, while avoiding dealing with the thousands killed by blacks.

When will the protests demanding "change" to the sky high black crime rate commence? Talk about need for systemic reform. Instead of craven virtue signaling by vapid morons like Justin Simien and Mark Cuban presuming to lecture "white people" about how evil they are, it might save more lives if we saw more material produced with titles like, "Dear black people, would you like some constructive criticism?"

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Most white people aren't racist, they are scared. And a lot of non-white people like to intimidate white people for fun.

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Most white people aren't afraid of blacks, but a lot are scared of being called "racist". That's why we get the craven displays in the media and on campus.

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Okay.

1. Have all the black people been known to commit their suspected crimes or were they falsely accused? There could be some false positives in the data because of forced confessions, juror biases, and whatnot.

2. The black community has been critical of itself at times, too. Many black activists have spoken up about issues that are under their community's control. But still, we can't minimize the issues of police brutality and racial profiling. They are still very real in our society.

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1. The FBI keeps track of victims by race too. Most crime is intraracial (like on like), and the number of black victims is roughly in the ballpark with the number of black perps, proving what a fraud the "Black Lives Matter" movement is since it deflects from that to focus on the tiny number of blacks killed by police. More interracial crimes are committed by blacks than vice versa too. It's not like cops are letting the real perps committing crimes against whites go free just so they can frame innocent black men, or burying white victimization to skew stats so blacks look bad.

2. The distortion caused by the war against the police is insane. Not only does it foment unnecessary racial hostility while distracting from the real problem of blacks' sky high crime rate, but it encourages defiance and violence against the police, when the message being preached should be cooperation. In virtually every high profile case that BLM has promoted through the media, the perp/victim would still be alive if he had cooperated. That doesn't always justify everything police do, but it's true.

In isolated acts of police brutality, which typically have nothing to do with race despite claims by activists to the contrary, there are avenues for pursuing justice. There's no need to make a political or societal issue out of it. It's amazing, given how many cops there are in this country, that there aren't more bad actors than there are.

Police aren't the problem. Crime is.

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1. How do you know most crimes are intraracial then? Again, there could be cases that are false postives (such as black people being wrongly accused.)

2. Police still need to better trained to deal with all kinds of situations. Police aren't perfect, they suffer from errors of human nature too.

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1. FBI and other stats. It's actually a well established, non-disputed fact if you do some research into the issue. You also ignored what I said about black victimization being the highest too. It's unrealistic, even silly stupid, to pretend these are white crooks somehow infiltrating into black neighborhoods undetected and committing all these crimes for some reason. And, given how slanted protections for defendants/suspects are in the US, there are almost certainly more guilty blacks roaming free than innocent blacks serving time.

2. So do all professions. I actually think police training is pretty awesome considering that in millions of interactions each year you can count the number of truly wrongful black deaths on one hand.

Police aren't the problem. Crime is the problem, especially black crime. Until society is willing to have an honest discussion about that then I have no use for dishonest outfits like "Black Lives Matter". They would have saved more lives by using their protest efforts and the money they've raised to encourage cooperation with the police rather than defiance and hostility.

Black Lives Matter has only succeeded in getting more people hurt and killed, blacks and otherwise.

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Okay fine. Black people have a higher rate of homicides. That's due to all the gang violence and poverty I must admit. Still, this could be a symptom of other factors including historical discrimination...remember, there was and possibly still be housing discrimination that's forcing them to live in more impoverished areas.

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Luck can impact individuals but poverty and success of an entire demographic in America is due to subcultural factors, as we said earlier. Geographical poverty can also result from bad policies, like those in Democrat dominated urban centers over the past several decades. Leftist policies, which increasingly include anti-white hostility, chase away their own tax base, hollowing cities out. Discrimination has been mostly pro black nationally on net in recent decades. That's even more true in communities mostly populated and run by blacks. It's not like blacks are discriminating against blacks.

Blacks also commit murder and other crimes at higher rates than other groups even adjusted for income. Poverty is no excuse for committing crime, especially when you're mostly hurting other poor people.

Modern "Black" cultural strains encouraging crime is where the systemic problems lie.

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Because it's a hell of a lot easier than staying in their own countries and working to lift them up.

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"There is no epidemic of racist cops killing unarmed black people. It’s a myth perpetuated by the media and leftists with a political agenda."

Yes. If this were true, we would be hearing of another killing every hour, every single day.

This supposed "white police brutality against blacks" is a big fat LIE!
It's similar to the gun-control agenda that school shootings happen "all the time."

Also, I'd like proof that this Derek guy killed George BECAUSE he's a racist.
They worked together so maybe he had a grudge against him, having nothing to do with his race.
I'm not condoning the killing of anyone. I'm just saying, where's the proof?

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Kumusta pare mabuhay

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Kumusta po! Mabuti!

(Sorry, while I do understand a lot of Tagalog, I can't really speak or write it well....)

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That's pretty cool. I've forgotten almost all the Korean I knew, still recall a little of what I learned in western Europe. My Spanish is marginally better because I've had cause to use it a little more here in the States, but I haven't used it in the last 18 years so...

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Awesome!

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One of Cruz's greatest hits:

All your friends are going to hang. Because that's what they do to traitors. Why don't you join them? Y'know... in solidarity.
https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/5ed5d9925fb684236e01d160/Remember-Trumps-both-sides-argument-in-Charlottesville?reply=5ed6f9356afd480a954dd809

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