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Voting by mail


I see nothing wrong with voting by mail.
My state has it. I can drop off a ballot in many locations without spending for the USPS stamp.
I can't imagine how a concerted effort to steal ballots from enough mail boxes and cheat the system could effect an outcome that wasn't what the actual voting public chose.
pubs are just afraid when a lot of people are allowed to vote their conscience, they will lose because their platform and leaders are so threadbare, only the easily persuaded and vested monetarily interested will vote for them.
pubs don't want an educated citizenry because they are too hard to manipulate.
Vote Progressive if we want this country to be a Shining Beacon on the Hill.

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Agreed man. I don't know what it will take to get the Dems to embrace progressivism. I mention the Dems because unfortunately there are only 2 major parties in this county, we need them. Maybe Trump winning another 4 years? Probably only wishful thinking.

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BALLOT HARVESTING IS WHERE A THIRD PARTY PICKS UP BALLOTS AND DELIVERS THEM TO THE POLLS...FALSE BALLOTS IN THE NAMES OF KNOWN NON VOTERS,BALLOT BROKERS,THESE GUYS PREY ON THE POOR,ELDERLY AND NON ENGLISH SPEAKING VOTERS,ACTING AS CONSULTANTS...EVERY ELECTION THERE ARE MILLIONS ARE UNUSED MAIL IN BALLOTS FLOATING AROUND...THERE REALLY IS A LOT TO WORRY ABOUT WITH MAIL IN VOTING

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Actually it's Democrats who demonstrably want a stupid, easily manipulated population. It's also in their strategic interest to keep as many people poor and dependent on government as possible.

Absentee ballots should be reserved for the military, those with some other career reason rendering physical voting impractical, or the elderly or infirm who can't reasonably make it to the polls. When limited like that they're basically such a small percentage of ballots that they don't swing the outcome, though even that small percentage does sometimes come into play as we saw in 2000 and some other close elections.

Letting most or all people vote that way is a problem because it eliminates the secret ballot and the chain of custody for the votes.

It's impossible to believe Democrats (and to a lesser degree Republicans to keep up) won't go door to door "helping" people vote, and maybe even mailing their ballots for them. It's called vote harvesting. Able bodied people should at least care enough to go to the polls, stand in line, and cast their own vote. Not answer the door and trade their sacred rights for a cookie or $5 bill.

An election decided by which party's ground game operatives gets more votes cast destroys election integrity. Why even bother with democracy if it's not about individual citizens being civic minded and taking responsibility for their own votes? And that's the relatively legal angle, without even getting into the countless blatant fraud opportunities it would be difficult or impossible to detect.

If Democrats really don't care about election integrity they should stop pretending, change their party name, and openly embrace technocracy or oligarchy. Heck, they're already partly there with the leftist career federal bureaucracy (aka "deep state", "swamp") that views itself as the ruling class and elections as dog and pony shows. This would be another huge step toward making democracy meaningless.

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Trump voted by mail. It's good enough for him, it's good enough for every American. Stop your hypocrisy!

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Trump's press secretary has voted by mail 11 times in the past decade. The hypocrisy in the Trump administration is astounding.

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No one opposes all mail voting, you idiots. Some people have legitimate reasons for it as I laid out above. People who care about election integrity oppose making the whole election mail in. That's not "hypocrisy". Can't any of you buffoons come up with real arguments?

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Yes. 100,000 Americans have died!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hitGT3TkP9s

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Mostly in New York and a few other Democrat states. But at least it wasn't 2 million as the expert models predicted, thanks to President Trump. He's done a good job navigating this crisis and the accompanying economic shut down.

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"Mostly in New York and a few other Democrat states."

What an insensitive and stupid thing to write! I don't expect a sociopath like yourself to understand the reason.

Trump is the reason why 100,000 Americans are dead. Republicans will be joining Democrats and Independents to vote him out of office in November.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=14&v=JxG241bExqY&feature=emb_logo

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Says the actual disgusting sociopath trying to dishonestly exploit virus deaths to seize political power. Regardless, the facts debunk your predictable, lame efforts.

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Republicans call for expanded voting options amidst the pandemic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe2QYKqRzBs

Vote!
Contact your elected officials to make sure you can SAFELY vote this November.

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Vote!

Call your elected officials to let them know you agree with Jimmy Carter and the bipartisan election integrity commission of 2005, which concluded mail in ballots have the most potential for fraud and don't boost legitimate turnout much anyway. Don't let Democrats steal this election and destroy our democracy.

https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/5ed0385e86d49b3c73fbefaa/Jimmy-Carter-2005-Commission-Absentee-ballots-remain-the-largest-source-of-potential-voter-fraud

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Vote!

Obama thanks you for spreading his tweet on social media.

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I didn't, but are you Obama's secretary? 😄 Is that why you're relaying his thanks?

A lot of things make more sense now.

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Since you're a Trump cultist, your message should be:

"Voter Suppression!"

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No that's what Democrats have been doing in CA in NC. I want to make it easy for people to vote legally while minimizing fraud.

Since you're a TDS cultist and communist sympathizer, your message should be "Hail China!"

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"Trump's press secretary has voted by mail 11 times in the past decade."

If it's good enough for Trump's press secretary, it's good enough for all Americans!

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Most Americans don't have a legitimate reason. A 2005 bipartisan commission on election integrity co chaired by Jimmy Carter of all people concluded that...

"Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud"

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/05/22/trump-vindicated-on-voter-fraud-elections-judge-convicted-of-stuffing-ballots-for-dems-924093

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Nonsense. If voting is good enough for Trump and his press secretary, then it's good enough for everyone.

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I see we've hit the ceiling on your mental acuity. How tragic.

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Michigan Trump Voter Explains Her Vote For Biden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIkQ_cPs-Jg

Vote!

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Georgia Democrat legislator explains his vote for Trump.

https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/5e9a29bb8cdef56ab3410118/Lifelong-Democrat-state-representative-endorses-Trump-citing-in-particular-his-policies-benefiting-blacks

Vote!

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I'm glad that you're repeating Obama's "Vote!" tweet. The more people who vote this November, the better chance Biden has in winning.

Meanwhile, continue your delusion re: your token.

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Especially if illegals, dead people, cats, and Philadelphia judges are voting early and often. Of course I'm talking to US citizens legally entitled to vote.

Obama may have lowered sea levels and healed the planet in your mind, but he didn't coin the word "vote".

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You're out of touch, aren't you? I suggest you watch more than right-wing and Russian propaganda.

More conspiracy theories from you.

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You're the only one spewing conspiracy theories. The Democrat Philadelphia judge in the DOJ press release I linked to confessed to voter fraud, moron. I suggest leaving your cloistered far left bubble from time to time and learning something about the world.

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It's very hard to suppress the vote if it's done by mail. Republicans are relying on voter suppression to win. They can't make voters wait on line for hours in democratic areas, they can't challenge voters right to cast their ballot, they can't make it difficult to obtain IDs in order to deny the vote, etc.

Republicans fear democracy. Republicans fear an honest and open election.

I received my mail-in voting application today.

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Democrats are banking on disenfranchising Americans through fraud to win. Democrats hate democracy, which is why Democrat governors in CA and NC refused to allow vacant Republican congressional seats to be filled by special elections, despite CA recently holding a special election to fill a Democrat vacancy. They're denying those citizens representation for a year out of petty partisan gamesmanship.

Democrats also cheer on unelected federal bureaucrats in the deep state when they try to sabotage the elected President. The left is unscrupulous and about seizing power by any means.

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Trump's own commission examining voter fraud found nothing and was disbanded. You've been debunked!

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Hogwash. That was disbanded because Democrats stonewalled it to death with BS lawsuits. There have been countless examples of voter fraud, and indications that the vast majority of it has gone undetected. Thousands of ineligible people have been found on voter rolls in individual states the rare occasions that the government has actually looked. Investigative reporters have shown how easy it is to falsely register in some (typically Democrat) urban locations. Some precincts have seen more votes cast than there are registered voters. Despite the political obstructionism there have been hundreds of voter fraud convictions in recent years.

Just days ago a Philadelphia judge was convicted of “conspiracy to deprive Philadelphia voters of their civil rights” and a bribery charge. For years he had been stuffing ballots for certain Democrats in exchange for payments from a consultant.

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/05/22/trump-vindicated-on-voter-fraud-elections-judge-convicted-of-stuffing-ballots-for-dems-924093

You've been debunked.

In fact since the national media outside of Fox hasn't covered this, it's worth its own thread.

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Do you ever go to legitimate websites and TV channels for news?

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I just did. Are you saying they made the story up, LOL? Y'all have to stop embarrassing yourselves with these weak retorts blindly attacking the source while failing to address the substance. It's lazy and stupid. You make this too easy.

How about the DOJ website?

"“Demuro fraudulently stuffed the ballot box by literally standing in a voting booth and voting over and over, as fast as he could, while he thought the coast was clear. This is utterly reprehensible conduct. The charges announced today do not erase what he did, but they do ensure that he is held to account for those actions,” said U.S. Attorney William M. McSwain of the Eastern District of Pennsylvania. “Voting is the cornerstone of our democracy. If even one vote is fraudulently rung up, the integrity of that election is compromised. I want the public to know that this investigation is active and ongoing, and my Office is taking every possible step that we can to ensure the integrity of the upcoming primary and general elections in the nine counties of the Eastern District of Pennsylvania.”"

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-philadelphia-judge-elections-convicted-conspiring-violate-civil-rights-and-bribery

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Your conspiracy theories based on your delusions are boring.

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😄 If you're accusing the Department of Justice of making this whole publicly covered criminal case up, you're the one engaging in conspiracy theorizing. Like you did on the other thread by blindly accusing (lying) the black Democrat legislators of praising Trump because they were "paid" (you didn't say how or by whom).

Please tell me you laughed as you typed that, and don't take yourself seriously.

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Did you ever imagine the President could act like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reAkLBKAgyw

Vote!
Even though Trumpists and their sycophants will try to prevent it.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKJYPBNB1Yk

Vote! Even though Biden and the left will try to prevent it, like the Democrat governors of CA and NC have blocked special elections to disenfranchise GOP districts.

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Another link with no credibility.

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More than yours. Mine also has much catchier music.

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Linking to that video was stupid on your part because it just reminds everybody about your hypocrisy and Trump's own behavior. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Trump grabs women by the pu**y, has an incestuous desire for his daughter, bragged about walking in on naked underage beauty contestants, hangs out with pedophiles, supports pedophiles and rapists, raped his own wife, raped a girl, and needs to pay for sex.

Most people know Biden is a nice person so the lies don't work. On the other hand, everyone knows Trump is a sociopath and a sexual predator who cheated on his own wife while she was having a baby.

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Almost everything you said is a lie. But those are lies you've been telling all along about Trump anyway.

Nominating Biden was stupid, along with other reasons, because he's the creepiest alleged sexual predator in politics and that weakness destroys the "nice guy" alternative angle you wanted to oppose Trump with, undercutting your own strategy in an unforced error.

Unlike Trump, who of course denies your claims, we have tons of video of Biden being creepy. When Tara Reade credibly relays her rape account like in that Kelly interview people believe it because they've seen how Creepy Joe behaves with their own eyes.

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Morbidly obese Trump's record speaks for itself. Trump promoted the rapist judge and the pedophile wanna-be senator, admitted on Howard Stern's radio show that he enjoyed entering underage beauty contestants' dressing room when he knew they were naked, his first exwife said he raped her in court papers, there are photos of him and pedophile Epstein hanging out together, and we all know he paid Stormy for sex while his wife was giving birth.

Tara Reade's own lawyer dropped her. She has a long history of lying. No credibility.

Nothing creepier than Trump killing 100,000 Americans!

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Tara Reade is much more believable and her account is far more corroborated than unreliable accusations against Trump paid for by a Democratic law firm before the last election. And spouses are notorious liars when going through a divorce. Epstein hung out way more with Clinton. Trump barely knew the guy and banned him from his resort after Epstein allegedly got inappropriate with a female staff member.

While Cuomo killed several thousand nursing home residents with his moronic order, Trump saved 2 million lives according to the scientific experts.

Trump also has boundless energy, while senile Biden can't keep his lying talking points coherent through a single interview.

Saaaay....forget Obama's secretary. Were you his Vice President? That would really explain a lot.

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How can you guarantee who's votes show up and who's don't? You are taking a vote and trusting it to go through many additional individuals, multiple stops, travel possibly hundreds of miles, and you can't see the potential for irregularities? What if you have a lefty mailman in a predominantly republic voting district, and he just decided to destroy the votes rather than deliver them? Just one example of dozens on how someone could manipulate this.

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What if a rabid dog bit a bunch of righty voters while on the way to the mailbox? This could affect the whole election !
Mail persons have a strict code they have to adhere to, and unlike a stereotypical righty who is enraged at everything enough to take drastic action, lefties want the system to work fairly and strive to make the world a better place through legitimate means, not scare tactics, lies, and manipulation.

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Lol, good one.🤣

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