Nancy Pelosi Says ‘Morbidly Obese’ Trump Taking Hydroxychloroquine Is ‘Not a Good Idea’ - Politics Discussion

It wouldn’t surprise me

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She has been waiting four years for a valid reason to use 'morbidly obese' in describing the President.

She finally got one.

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[–] Bubbathegut (17225) 4 years ago

"Maybe Trump will drop dead then America's biggest problem will have taken care of itself."

The countdown starts...

Day 1.

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[–] kukuxu (5409) 4 years ago

No matter how much she waited, it's an insult.

A morbidly obese person is over a 100% overweight. Trump should be around 30-40% overweight. So her sentence is literally an insult.

And it's a dangerous insult, since it's conveying fake medical information.

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[–] robocat893 (13430) 4 years ago

Of course Pelosi's comment was an insult. So what? Trump insults people every day yet you have no problem with that. Hypocrite. I'll wait for your explanation on how Trump's insults are different from anyone else's insults.

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[–] kukuxu (5409) 4 years ago

I can't answer about some generic statement.

Give some specific case. For example, since he insults people every day, which was yesterday's insult?

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[–] robocat893 (13430) 4 years ago

I'm not going to go back and forth with you about Trump and his specific insults. Okay, so Trump doesn't insult someone every day but he does it often enough. You're not stupid. You see this. My point is that when Trump insults someone you don't say a word . But when Pelosi insulted Trump you are all of a sudden concerned and it's a big deal. That makes you a hypocrite.

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[–] kukuxu (5409) 4 years ago

I repeat: give some specific example.

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[–] Redsfan001 (6004) 4 years ago

I think they are secretly dating.

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[–] PaladinNJ (20310) 4 years ago

Actually Medical definition of Morbidly Obese is more than 20% over standard weight.

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[–] kukuxu (5409) 4 years ago

Actually Medical definition of Morbidly Obese is more than 20% over standard weight.

Well, I guess that's the new "consensus" so it can be applied to Trump. Science has proven to be highly adaptable to deep state political requirements, last years.

But I meant before it was changed. Here you have an old pre-Trump medical definition.

https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Morbidly+obese
"Obesity traditionally has been defined as a weight at least 20% above the weight corresponding to the lowest death rate for individuals of a specific height, gender, and age (ideal weight). Twenty to forty percent over ideal weight is considered mildly obese; 40-100% over ideal weight is considered moderately obese; and 100% over ideal weight is considered severely, or morbidly, obese."

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[–] PaladinNJ (20310) 4 years ago

I could care less how it applies to Trump. Doctor says I'm 20% over my ideal weight and approaching morbidly obese and I believe them.

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[–] B1cKsurN (14779) a year ago

You'd think the landwhales would demand that to be increased because feeeeeeeelings. 🤣🤣🤣

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[–] Bubbathegut (17225) 4 years ago

Day 8, still not deleted. Not surprised.

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[–] ultravioletx (10216) 4 years ago

99% he isn't taking it. He's selling it to his millions of minions so he can profit on the back end, just like Alex Jones and his lead pills.

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[–] Keelai (31890) 4 years ago

I agree. He's been hawking this drug for months.

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[–] Bubbathegut (17225) 4 years ago

told ya it wouldn't be deleted, even though it violates MC policy

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[–] JoWilli (15153) 8 months ago

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[–] keybored (2654) 4 years ago

Logic seems to have escaped her.

Shouldn't she be screaming that he ought to keep taking it if it is that dangerous to his health?

The truth is that a cheap and very effective against many diseases medicine, which has been around since the 1940s, is being suppressed by those who want to push expensive vaccines whose side effects are likely to be very bad, considering they are being pushed by a non-medically qualified eugenicist.

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[–] Keelai (31890) 4 years ago

Pelosi is a practicing Catholic so she wouldn't wish harm on another person.

Latest global study reports increased death with drug and it doesn't help cure the virus.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/may/22/hydroxychloroquine-trumps-covid-19-cure-increases-deaths-global-study-finds

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[–] keybored (2654) 4 years ago

Seriously? You actually believe Pelosi doesn't want Trump dead? I'll let you into a secret - not all those who proclaim to be good people are. Have you forgotten how she encouraged people to go to Chinatown (when she knew how bad and infectious Covid-19 was)? https://youtu.be/eFCzoXhNM6c

She also needs to look up the term 'morbidly obese' before throwing it around as an insult. Go look on google images if you need to know what a morbidly obese person actually looks like.

I notice that your Guardian link (notoriously left-wing paper which works in partnership with the Bill And Melinda Gates Foundation - https://www.theguardian.com/info/2018/oct/02/philanthropic-partnerships-at-the-guardian) omits that those global studies (and who funded those btw?) do not mention Zinc, which is what it is taken in conjunction with, to cure Covid-19, so the studies are flawed.

The Lancet, where the studies were published, is owned by Elsevier, who have a partnership with... The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation https://www.elsevier.com/about/open-science/open-access/agreements/bill-and-melinda-gates-foundation so no bias there, eh?

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[–] Keelai (31890) 4 years ago

"An individual is considered morbidly obese if he or she is 100 pounds over his/her ideal body weight, has a BMI of 40 or more, or 35 or more and experiencing obesity-related health conditions, such as high blood pressure or diabetes."

Trump medications:
Crestor for high cholesterol, aspirin to prevent heart attacks, antibiotics to treat skin rosacea, Propecia for baldness, and Ambien to help him rest on flights.

Trump photos:
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3a4c05cde1d6f58661af1ab0753586f6

He's about 340lb with 42.5 BMI is morbidly obese. Even 300lb with 37.5 BMI with Crestor is 37.5 morbidly obese. Pelosi is right!

Trump on February 24th:
"The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!"

Trump mislead Pelosi and the entire country! Buck stops with him.

Arsenic taken with zinc doesn't make arsenic safe.

"Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine, often in combination with a second-generation macrolide, are being widely used for treatment of COVID-19, despite no conclusive evidence of their benefit. Although generally safe when used for approved indications such as autoimmune disease or malaria, the safety and benefit of these treatment regimens are poorly evaluated in COVID-19."
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31180-6/fulltext

That drug is a dud.

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[–] keybored (2654) 4 years ago

Why didn't you use a recent photo oh him instead of one that is 5 years old? Can you post a recent pic of him instead?

Here's what CNN (who also hate his guts) had to say about it - https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/19/politics/nancy-pelosi-donald-trump-fat-hydroxychloroquine/index.html Quite surprising that they would try to stick to facts for a change.

Trump was being misled by many people (as was every other country around the world) and took action sooner than most and was criticized for it. As it turns out, many lies are being told about C-19 and the testing results. Why aren't you blaming those people, including the CDC and the World Health Organisation (whose second-biggest funder below the USA just happens to be... drum roll... the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/04/who-funds-world-health-organization-un-coronavirus-pandemic-covid-trump/ ) Shocker! I'm sensing a pattern here. Have you spotted it yet?

"Arsenic taken with zinc doesn't make arsenic safe." is a stupid and ignorant statement to make. Just because chemical A reacts one way on its own does not make chemical A react the same way when combined with chemical B. That's basic chemistry. Remember the scene from fight club? https://youtu.be/zvtUrjfnSnA It explains it well when the chemical A burn stops burning when chemical B is poured onto it.

Let's listen to what others (medically qualified) who don't have a financial benefit to pushing Gate's vaccine have to say about it and how it should be taken.

https://youtu.be/eVs_EWVCVPc
https://youtu.be/wohTFdqCurA
https://youtu.be/XqWxlH29_i4
https://youtu.be/pHOXEqhApWw
https://youtu.be/yjkPdwlhI8A
https://youtu.be/Y3NDMPxTA_k starts at 3:20
https://youtu.be/g0l6PIjudnk

If the drug was a dud and so dangerous, why has it not been withdrawn from the market, as it's only been available since WW2. When prescribed by a medically.

It's also been used to treat many other diseases successfully.

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[–] Keelai (31890) 4 years ago

Trump is fatter now than when he came to office.

CNN editor isn't a doctor so I don't care.

Trump didn't listen to intelligence and health agency personnel when they warned him in January and February. It's May, and he still doesn't have an national plan!

Jan. 22: 1 case confirmed in U.S.
"We do have a plan"

Jan. 30: 7 cases confirmed in U.S.
U.S. has a "very little problem" with five cases

Feb. 7: 11 confirmed cases in U.S.
With warmer weather "virus hopefully becomes weaker with warmer weather, and then gone"

Feb. 23: 51 confirmed cases in U.S.
Situation is "very much under control"

Feb. 26: 58 confirmed cases in U.S.
The 15 cases in U.S. "within a couple days is going to be down close to zero"

March 9: 959 confirmed cases in U.S.
Compares number of deaths caused by coronavirus and flu

March 24: 65,800 confirmed cases in U.S.
Wants country and economy "raring to go by Easter"

Trump's useless. So is hydroxychloroquine unless you have malaria or lupus.

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[–] keybored (2654) 4 years ago

You might want to get your eyesight tested if you think he's even fatter as he has lots loads of weight since that photo you linked to was posted. So are you going to call out Pelosi for fat-shaming him? No. Didn't think so.

Are you aware that they are lying about the figures for Covid-19, and the statistics, and the testing all over the world?

I suggest you read up some more on hydroxychloroquine if you think it is only good for malaria or lupus. It treats and cures many more diseases and illnesses. If only it could treat TDS too and maybe then it could be forced upon people they way some want Gates's vaccine forced into people? Hang on a sec. Maybe it does and that is why they are so against it? Maybe it actually works for many other diseases too?

Anti-rheumatic? Check. https://www.rheumatology.org/I-Am-A/Patient-Caregiver/Treatments/Hydroxychloroquine-Plaquenil

Juvenile idiopathic arthritis? Check. https://www.versusarthritis.org/about-arthritis/conditions/juvenile-idiopathic-arthritis/

Prostate Cancer? Check. https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00726596

Glioblastoma Multiforme? Check. https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00486603

MERS? Check. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5733787/

In other news the WHO today banned testing with hydroxychloroquine (used to be a WHO listed essential medicine), but given that the World Health Organisations biggest donator, now that the USA has withdrawn funding, is... tada... the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation & China is the next biggest doner btw, still no conflict of interest there then eh?

Why on earth you would want to trust a vaccine pushed by someone who wants to control the population of the world and even called the current situation before his vaccine 'the final solution' is beyond me, but you go ahead and take his vaccine and let's see who benefits from it.

https://youtu.be/DSvhPnUgyz8

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[–] Keelai (31890) 4 years ago

"Are you aware that they are lying about the figures for Covid-19"

I find your conspiracy theory very offensive. I know numerous people who were hospitalized with it and three died. You really need to stop with your nonsense.

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[–] keybored (2654) 4 years ago

Sorry to hear you knew people that died. I had it in December and so did my husband, my mother and my cousin. That doesn't mean you're not being lied to still.

Most of the deaths are being found to be from people who already were old, sick or had underlying conditions already or died of other things that were blamed on Covid-19 as the cause of death.

It's not a conspiracy theory when it is actually true, but it is utter ignorance to ignore that you are being lied to.

For example https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/tens-thousands-coronavirus-tests-have-double-counted-officials/ https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/16/world/europe/coronavirus-antibody-test-uk.html https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/05/cdc-and-states-are-misreporting-covid-19-test-data-pennsylvania-georgia-texas/611935/ https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-covid19-death-rate-herd-immunity-20200502.html https://www.researchgate.net/post/Did_the_World_Health_Organisation_lie_about_Covid-19_being_a_pandemic

And who can forget this classic? - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/coronavirus-tanzania-test-kits-suspicion-goat-pawpaw-positive-a9501291.html

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[–] Keelai (31890) 4 years ago

More BS from you. You really need to stop!

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[–] keybored (2654) 4 years ago

Can you not even try to comment on any of the links I gave you? Did you even read any of them? No. Just knee-jerked your reaction to what's really going on because you would rather stick your fingers in your ears and go la la la than see what's really going on.

Pawpaws and goats are not human yet they somehow tested positive when they were given a human name & age and sent away for testing, and though the machine oil test was inconclusive, the sheep is covid-19 free. Yay!

No comment on that story? Not even a sarcy one?

How about listening to the expert? https://youtu.be/oLNBw7XCM4Q

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[–] NormaAndNorman (3900) 4 years ago

Keybored, I think you've nearly rendered Keelai speechless! 😱

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[–] keybored (2654) 4 years ago

Maybe. We will see.

They never debate any of the info I bring. Just resort to insults or telling me to shut up instead because they can't handle real proof and try to deflect it with a handful of 'Orange Man bad' type quotes and misinformation they saw on CNN or somewhere equally as bad.

It would be nice to have an actual debate on the merits of the proofs I show for a change or even just a simple acknowledgement that they hadn't seen that before and that wasn't what they were told by someone else and it made them go hmmm, if only for a second.

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[–] NormaAndNorman (3900) 4 years ago

I know. You're preaching to the choir! 😉

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[–] keybored (2654) 4 years ago

Well, what a surprise.

CDC quietly DOWNGRADED Covid-19 death rate and media IGNORED good news.

https://www.rt.com/usa/489823-musk-cdc-covid-fatalities/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

The CDC just came out with a report that should be earth-shattering to the narrative of the political class, yet it will go into the thick pile of vital data and information about the virus that is not getting out to the public. For the first time, the CDC has attempted to offer a real estimate of the overall death rate for COVID-19, and under its most likely scenario, the number is 0.26%. Officials estimate a 0.4% fatality rate among those who are symptomatic and project a 35% rate of asymptomatic cases among those infected, which drops the overall infection fatality rate (IFR) to just 0.26% — almost exactly where Stanford researchers pegged it a month ago.

https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-the-cdc-confirms-remarkably-low-coronavirus-death-rate-where-is-the-media

The revelation should have been major news, but has gone largely unnoticed, Blaze columnist Daniel Horowitz pointed out on Monday.

"We destroyed our entire country and suspended democracy all for a lie, and these people perpetrated the unscientific degree of panic. Will they ever admit the grave consequences of their error?"

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[–] NormaAndNorman (3900) 4 years ago

Of course! The numbers have been played with from the beginning and will continue to be.
Nope, they're just going to keep going on with their narrative so we can be controlled. They would never report this, nor would a reporter ask about this.

If people don't do their own homework they're not going to find out the truth about or question things. That is, if they're open to it.

This information deserves its own thread.

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[–] Bubbathegut (17225) a year ago

This hasn't aged very well.

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[–] Keelai (31890) a year ago

He's still fat
https://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/sports/golf/2022/07/28/donald-trump-liv-golf-pro-am-bedminster-photos/10176653002/

and Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine is still a dud.

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[–] Bubbathegut (17225) a year ago

Looks healthy for his age and at least he can still play 18 holes of golf. While that other guy has no idea whats going on and poops his diaper.

https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2021/02/betterb-e1614518439653.jpg

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[–] Keelai (31890) a year ago

I'd like to see your fatso cult leader do one push-up.
https://m.facebook.com/pascoschools/photos/joe-biden-visits-oakstead-elementary-school/1873083016041482/

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[–] Bubbathegut (17225) a year ago

I would like to see your cult leader actual do something to help Americans.

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[–] Keelai (31890) a year ago

Projecting your cult following tendencies to Democrats doesn't work. You're the ones wearing stupid red caps and mindlessly attempting to lynch the vice president because your cult leader lost an election.

Biden has done plenty:

Biden inherited a wrecked economy with record unemployment and bankruptcies from Trump. Biden fixed Trump's mess. We have record low employment now and a much higher GDP which needed to be cooled.

Biden inherited an out-of-control pandemic from Trump. Biden used his presidential powers to fast track vaccine development and create the infrastructure to distribute it nationally.

The free world was horrified as Trump embraced brutal dictators and destroyed America's reputation. Biden restored America's reputation and respectability around the world. NATO is united and strong. Russia is weakened.

Trump did nothing to lower prescription drug prices. Biden lowered the cost of insulin and added benefits like hearing aids to Medicare helping millions of Americans.

Trump did nothing to help infrastructure. Biden established the infrastructure bill to repair our bridges, airports, highways, public transportation and create broadband for rural folks.

Biden is creating hundreds of thousands of homes to alleviate the housing shortage.

Biden is protecting Medicare and Social Security from the evil Republicans. Pence just announced he wants to ruin it.

Biden helped strengthen loose gun laws. Gun violence has already been lowered. Thanks President Biden.

Biden's climate change bill to help planet earth.

Child poverty in the U.S. cut in half!

Made rich large companies pay their fair share in taxes.

Killed Al Qaeda terrorist Ayman al-Zawahiri.

Increased the budget to the IRS to get fraudsters like your Trump guy.

Created more jobs in one year (6.6 million) than any other president in U.S. history.

Reduced healthcare premiums under the Affordable Care Act by $800 a year as part of the American Rescue Plan.

Signed the CHIPS and Science Act to strengthen American manufacturing and innovation.

Reauthorized the Violence Against Women Act through 2027. Trump supported violence against women.

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[–] kuatorises (7467) 4 years ago

You cannot be this naive. You're just insanely biased.

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[–] Gubbio (3893) 4 years ago

Maybe she should pray for him -- good Catholic that she is..... 🙄✝

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[–] Keelai (31890) 4 years ago

She prays for him all the time. She's on record stating this Itchy Gubbio.

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[–] JoWilli (15153) 3 years ago

Trump flashback...

member when liberals wanted Trump dead? good times...

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[–] JoWilli (15153) 8 months ago

Mod 5 said it doesnt violate the rules of MC

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[–] B1cKsurN (14779) a year ago

Another useless TDS post...

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[–] B1cKsurN (14779) 8 months ago

I know right! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

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[–] robocat893 (13430) 8 months ago

Now you are replying to yourself? Seek help.

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[–] Galilguy (2327) 8 months ago

Heed your own advice..

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