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Bernie is still in it


A big part of why Biden won Super Tuesday is because his voters saw he was on the ropes and Bernie's voters got a bit complacent.

Now Biden has the delegate lead and Bernie is trailing with most of the states remaining still favoring him. The same result could end up giving Bernie the final lead.

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They are not free. They are working. Its part of the contat

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Hey ultraviolent, Lizzy is complaining about Bernie Bros online harassment. She says Bernie should be held accountable for his supporters. Do you agree?

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I don't agree just like you don't agree. When you argue things you don't agree with, you expose yourself as a troll.

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He exposed himself as a troll the day he told me a couple months ago that he's here to troll.

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Yeah. He's pretty much been repeating it since his first day here.

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Fuck him. He's a boring troll at best and a non-entity at worst. There are resident trolls who are rather entertaining. I've dealt with them before. We used to call them the "board clowns". These past few years, though? Much like music, trolls have taken the plunge into mediocrity. This one doesn't even have a handle. He just...posts and makes goofy emoji faces. Jesus, at least put some effort into trolling. How he doesn't bore himself senseless with his posts is beyond me.

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Argue? How is this an argument? I ask you a simple question and you think it's an argument. Paranoid much?

So you do expect Bernie to make a public announcement to denounce these attacks and implore his supporters to stop, yes?

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First of all, he's already made such an announcement.

Secondly, you asked if I agree if he should be held accountable. "I don't agree" answered your question. Your followup question assumed I agreed which proves you are not just asking simple questions. If you ignore the answers given, it's obvious you are here to troll.

I don't agree and you don't agree. I don't agree Bernie should be held accountable for Warren's accusations and neither do you. I don't agree Trump should be banned from twitter for Warren's accusations and neither do you. Warren sold out her campaign long ago. I think we can both agree on that, yes? Or more trolling, yes?

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Has he? You got a link? His condemnations are pretty weak. He couldn't condemn Fidel Castro without a but. I'd like to see his official statement.

So if Bernie isn't to be held accountable for his minions, why do you dems bitch about Trump? Why is Trump responsible when a Trump supporter does something wrong? Double standard much, ultraviolent? Then again, what else is new, yes? Nothing as usual. 🤪🤪🤪

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Bernie isn't to be held accountable for "minions" just like Trump isn't to be held accountable for you. Warren went after Bernie bros and Trump's twitter account because that's what her super pac and ex-Kamala staffers told her to do. And that's how Warren went from competing with Biden to getting berned.

You already agree with this, but you continue anyway.

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You're wasting your time with Sandman27. He just repeats what he's already posted and will talk in circles with you ad nauseam. Then he will call you names because that's all he has got.

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True. He likes looking for a reason to disagree. He usually has one, but here he doesn't. So in order to keep this one going he has to embarrass himself more than usual. On top of it his psychosis won't let him refrain from bumping my thread which is fine by me.

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Thank you for your two cents robocat. I noticed you didn't find any typos this time. Perhaps next time, grammar nazi? 🤪🤪🤪

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No problem. I'm glad I can help you feel better while you're trolling. Just don't let your mommy catch you so you don't lose your family computer privileges again. That would be sad for you.

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I'm so glad you're keeping everybody on the level as you hunt for typos and grammatical errors! Oh wait. You're just a grammar nazi for dems only. You won't call out your pal dogdump or slimone who didn't know the difference from pole and poll. Oh well. You are a hypocrite anyway, so what else is new, yes? 🤪🤪🤪

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Aw... Poor baby. You seem triggered. Do you want a tissue? Maybe a hug?

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Sure. I can always use a hug, even from a grammar nazi. 🤪🤪🤪🤪

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Okay... Here you go. *hug* Feel better? I've got plenty of tissues if you want.

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Thank you robocat. That hug was as sincere as a Pelosi press conference! Good luck searching for typos and grammatical errors! 🤪🤪🤪

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You complain about me going over the same thing when you do exactly that and still FAIL to answer the question. If you Trump supporters aren't to be held accountable either, then why the hell do you dems attack Trump when some random support does something wrong? You all blamed him for Charlottesville.

Where's the link of Bernie's public statement?

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Bernie bros are being attacked for being mean on the internet. When Trump supporters are mean on the internet they get ignored. It's expected in fact. Trump gets criticized for his own actions. Even when Heather Heyer was killed by a Trumper, Trump was criticized for something else--He downplayed her murder by saying the violence was on both sides.

It's on the google. If ya need help, try adding the view.

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Send me the link. I'll check it out. Trump supporters get ignored? No they don't. They get narc'ed because you dems can't handle the criticism. Apparently, sending a fired op-ed writer a tweet of "learn to code" was considered abusive. Such snowflakes. And of course, we know Twitter is biased. You can watch the Joe Roggin podcast with the Twitter CEO as proof of that. Since Biden and Bernie are the remaining nominees, jokes on age will be flagged as abusive. How convenient!

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Not gonna bother sending a link of Bernie denouncing something I don't agree needs to be denounced. If that's your cause then go for it.

Trump supporters on the internet get ignored by the media in a general sense, yes.

Twitter and facebook are global social networks that have to respect all ethnicities if they want to maximize their user base. If you go against that, they ban you. Right-wingers get reported for those violations more than left-wingers do.

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Bernie doesn't need to denounce his supporters bullying another candidate? But according to you, he did denounce it, right? So all you have to do is send a link of his public statement. Whether you agree with it or not is irrelevant.

In a "general sense". Nice retcon! Backpedal much?

What part of "learn to code" violates ethnicity, gender or religion, pray tell? Why is it okay that people tweeted to dox and physically harm the Covington catholic kids, but "learn to code" is not?

Why do right-wingers get reported more? Is it because the snowflakes narc on tweets as abuse more? Even after the bias was pointed out to Jack Dorsey, one would think he would address the issue. However, he didn't change a thing. If you don't see that as proof of biased media and inaction, then you are truly hopeless.

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Let's be real for a sec, he's got to do gangbusters next week, swallow his pride to pick up some real endorsements, and stay afloat. He's got money right now but Biden has the media and the DNC behind him.

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Gangbusters is right. Meaning attack ads on Biden's record. Is he willing to go there? If not, then he ain't President material.

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That and actually tout what he's done for blacks compared with Biden. Sanders actually participated in the civil rights movement (cannot recall that ever being mentioned) and was arrested for opposing segregation. Meanwhile Biden lied about being arrested in South Africa and the media barely bats an eyelash. I guess the truth didn't matter to Clyburn.

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He'd better hurry up, because I don't want him and his bros crying about the DNC when he didn't do all that he can and should do that is within his control.

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True. I'm just saying it could yield those results. People are assuming he is out, but that assumption could potentially be the thing that brings him back in it.

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Florida is likely to sink his campaign. Who knew Cubans were still fighting the Cold War? Idiots.

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It could, but it depends how it goes in the next few days. Bernie winning Michigan could change the narrative since that's a must-win for any democrat in November to even think they have a shot at beating Trump.

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It'd be cool but even in 2016, Sanders just barely won MI.

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He shouldn't have won it at all in 2016 considering his name recognition versus Hillary's. He won Wisconsin too. She did win Pennsylvania though, but that's likely due to Bernie's struggle with closed primaries.

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I've scant hope for him today. Sanders had a solid lead but wasted it. Should had tried to seek out some endorsements from people like Booker or Harris. He should had jumped on Biden for lying about being arrested in South Africa and reiterate his civil rights record to black Americans to garner more of their support.

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He's definitely got the deck stacked against him. As for not going after Biden, I agree, he's been way too soft. Maybe Biden offered him VP.

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Old people in Florida need their Social Security ...
Biden has tried over and over to cut Social Security.
There are more old people than there are Cubans,
and the Cubans from the 1950's are dead along
with Castro.

The problem for Biden is that he won in all these
states that do not matter because they will go to
Trump in the general election - they are all RED
STATES.

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Biden and Sanders are the only ones left. I was thinking about voting for Bernie, but he is far too radical, so I'm going to for for Biden.

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Radical just might be what the majority is looking for. Though we are honestly talking radical in the softest sense.

Trump won in 2016 by going against the RNC establishment. He not only beat the RNC, but also beat the DNC establishment candidate Hillary Clinton.

Biden is offering a redo of 2016 with dem establishment vs repub populist.

Bernie is offering a new strategy of dem populist vs repub populist.

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A few words from Bernie Sanders supporters:



https://i.pinimg.com/236x/74/c2/c6/74c2c6b08590be7ef49d5515d13cc23a.jpg

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Those are literal words of a right-winger since that's who made the meme.

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No shit. It’s what people several generations ago simply referred to as “a joke”, back before it was outlawed to have a sense of humor. 🙄

This joke just happens to have a lot of truth to it, which makes it funnier.

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What I'm asserting is it was a terrible joke. It was ruined by your setup of "a few words from Bernie Sanders supporters." You would've been better off just posting the link, but you blew it. Just more evidence that right-wingers and comedy do not mix.

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Just more evidence that political people love to blindly generalize, and in reality they don’t know a damn thing...I’m not a right winger, I'm just a moderate who doesn’t follow a specific political party like a sheep. I like to make my own decisions.

And of course you don’t think it’s funny, it’s bashing your lord and savior, leader of your cult, king of the socialist “free shit for everyone” brigade, Old man Bernie Sanders.

And if I may generalize as you did, we all know how well extremist liberals can take a joke...they created “cancel culture” for god’s sake. Generally speaking, they are the most thinned skin human beings on planet earth by a long shot.

Have a good day.

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SDS.

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That’s a solid and well thought out rebuttal...when you have nothing of substance to add.

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It was a joke.

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Nice twist!

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2016 all over again is what I see (check out delegate count Clinton v Bernie). As for the election v Trump, it may be different this time around since Republicans are dying off and more democrats have registered since last year.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/05/the-gop-is-dying-off-literally-118035
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/09/2020-republicans-doomed.html

'As of 2018, there were 12 million more registered Democrats than Republicans'

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Bernie was never really in the lead. The polls were misleading. Plus many of the people who want Bernie to win are younger and those people don't vote in large numbers(historically). One more thing, when Mr. and Mrs. and MZZZZ. Normie America learn that there is a Communist leading the DNC they vote against him. That's not my opinion. It is fact.

I'm still a bit shocked that the DNC let Bernie be a DEM after the 2016 election. If I were that corrupt(DNC) I would NOT let Bernie stay in my club. They're paying the price for trying to be nice and save face now. Oh well. Politics is hell.

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Just a reminder ...
What you post is your opinion, not a fact.
I believe many middle Americans will see beyond labels and agree with what pols like Bernie are trying to do over what Dumb-ass trump's histrionics are about.
Sanders can't turn the US culture around on a dime but it would be nice to be a more thoughtful and compassionate culture than what we have now where we spend a godawful amount on the military and reward the top % while our own citizens have to work multiple minimum wage jobs just to live.
It's like taking numbers during slavery and claiming it's full employment.

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There could be a lot going on here.
The wins in these states don't really mean that much,
because they are all Red State Republican strongholds
that in the general election will go for Trump anyway,
so they don't make any difference.

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Agreed. Last election was all about Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. All eyes should be focused there.

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Ohio makes me sick. They should be a solid union blue working class state. Same with WIS and MI. How people get sucked into the pub narrative is indicative of how bad our public education system has become, which is an end of the pub agenda. Just awful.

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Florida too. It was a working class state with retirement memes but now its all about old age. Florida and Ohio were purple states to the core and now they are light red. Who is responsible for it? Obama, Biden and Hillary.

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I was a big Bernie supporter in 2015,2016,2017,2018, 2019, and 2020. I switched to Warren, but I still supported Bernie, and I did until last Super Tuesday. I don't think Bernie can win, and if he did win he would have had to win with an overwhelming majority. Young people did not turn out, as did not blacks. All in all Bernie does not have the support he needs to implement his plans, there is no denying that.

That said, because Bernie cannot win does not mean I am happy with Biden.

I will only be happy if Biden selects Elizabeth Warren as his running mate to heal the rift between the far Left and the establishment Democrats. Trump is a national disgrace. Anyone who does not see that is a disgrace as well.

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I'd say it's officially over now. Trump wins in November. The DNC and their cronies are hoping for coronavirus to carry them to victory. We'll see I guess.

I think at this point Bernie as VP is Biden's only real shot at beating Trump without the help of a pandemic.

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No, Bernie is not the one to be VP for the same reason that the whole media attacked him and everything that showed him was negative ... Biden cannot take that on. He could however taken on Warren.

Trump will not win. Only loud nutcases like Trump, and his showing how ignorant he is is getting through to even the people who used to like him. He is gone in less than a year.

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If Bernie becomes Biden's VP, the mainstream media hops on board. If Bernie is not the VP, too many "young voters" will stay home like they did in 2016.

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The problem with that thinking is twofold, one is that Bernie is a anchor around anyone's neck now that his support has tanked, and the other that just as many or more voters may stay home either way.

Personally, I think that Warren is a better compromise candidate than Bernie. Bernie has fatal flaws that were exploitable by the media during this last campaign. He has incredible support and did a lot to change the country, but ... who says Bernie even wants to be VP? Bernie's reason was to be President why would he want to spend his old age in a meaningless job as VP that will lead nowhere because he is too old to run again.

Even Warren is rather old and probably will not be able to run again. The Progressive movement in the US has old folks that people like and recognize, but not many people to pick up the torch after Bernie.

Another problem is that thanks to Bernie and others the Progressive movement is associated with minorities and the poor, a constituency that Americans do not really care that much about.

It would have been great had Bernie mobilized more support than he did last time, but that does not seem to have happened.

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