MovieChat Forums > Politics > Cuban Communist Party’s Official Newspap...

Sandiers will win the nomination come super tuesday. Free anything for everybody!

reply

Bull Shi***********t. White people won't get free shit. Sanders never mentions white people in a positive way. Never. Hell, he rarely mentions the USA in a positive manner. Communists are destroyers NOT builders.

reply

The reason Sanders must be stopped by the DNC is not by his policies, nor his promises. It is the fact that he openly presents them. The DNC wants them hidden. They fear that revealing the truth about the democrat party would ruin it.

If they can't stop Sanders then their best bet is to get him to announce Clinton as his running mate. Not only would it help in the effort to "win" the presidency, it would also insure that Sanders wouldn't live long to enjoy it.

The DNC would love to have Clinton in office.

reply

Correct. Almost no Democrats are criticizing Sanders' Marxist agenda. They're criticizing his ability to win. If he gets the nomination most of them will still rally around him over Trump (who's firmly within the traditional American mainstream ideologically). Even this thread's op will likely support the guy he's currently calling a "communist" over the centrist populist Trump. Their sole concern is power.

reply

A Trump cultist desperate for a Sanders vs Trump race!

reply

You're a Democrat cultist who will support the Democrat nominee no matter what, even if it's a communist. Tell me I'm wrong.

And no, for the record I don't root to get certain opponents, even in sports let alone something vastly more serious like this. I might hold my fire more against some candidates or on some issues until if and when they're the nominee for strategic prioritization and timing reasons, but I take every threat seriously and don't get complacent.

reply

Four points:

1) Sander's hasn't expanded his base. His base tends to be young and progressive. Young people don't vote. Progressives are a minority within the party. Liberals and moderates (75%) in the party prefer the moderate candidates and they tend to vote. Never Trumpers and disappointed Trump voters prefer the moderate candidates too and could crossover with the right moderate candidate.

2) The presidential election is NOT a national race. If it were, then Hillary would be in the White House since she received 3 million more votes than your cult leader, Trump.

3) The swing states will decide this election. Most people in swing states are moderate therefore the final democratic candidate should be a moderate to expand the appeal of the candidate by pulling in most Democrats, Independents and moderate Republicans.

4) I don't live in a swing state. My vote won't be a part of the decision in this election.

A cultist can't see any error as you demonstrate by defending Trump no matter what he does. Unlike you, I've already said repeatedly that Sanders supporters are as dopey and brainwashed as Trump supporters. Democrats also don't have their act together re: running a competent presidential election.

reply

Take your victory lap around the imbecile going by the name krl97a! That was an easy one for you!

reply

The imbecile going by the name krl97a has suddenly become quiet.

reply

You noticed, too ?

reply

You dodged. Will you be voting for and supporting (including on this board) a communist over Trump this fall if Sanders gets the nomination? As for your diversionary list (that "deflection" we've discussed that you like so much)...

1. Ok, but Sanders is still the Democrat front runner and barring a massive upset appears to poised to wipe away the SC Biden narrative in a couple of days, making my question even more pertinent.

2. The presidential election IS a national race. It's just not a national popular vote, decided on by the states instead. And actually no one "won" the (nonexistent) popular vote as that would require over 50%. Right leaning presidential candidates received more "popular votes" than left leaning presidential candidates combined, indicating (to the extent that "popular vote" evidence means anything) that Trump would have won a run off.

3. Maybe. It's a classic question of base enthusiasm versus centrist appeal. They're both important. Some circumstances favor one and other times the other wins out. I happen to think by going "woke" and paying homage to the ist-phobe SJW identity politics garbage this time, and embracing gun control, Sanders improved his primary standing while hurting his general election appeal. He's the only Democrat with any enthusiastic support, but it could be a McGovern situation.

4. So?

Don't be ridiculous. I've criticized Trump on a number of issues and more than anything else over the years I've always been an independent thinker. I’ve even been planning a thread on that score for after Super Tuesday.

Again, you're the one who's probably going to support a communist just because he's got the "D" label, moron. Ironically a lot like Mondale and the other national Democrats supported real cult leader Jim Jones (another communist Democrat).

PS - I've "become quiet", LOL? Actually I had better things to do on Saturday night than post here. Apparently you and your mindless butthurt cheerleader didn't. Tell poor doggie to run another defeat lap.


reply

"2. The presidential election IS a national race."

Not really. Most states have already decided. For instance, Alabama will vote Republican while New York will Democrat. The red and blue states are almost equally divided. That leaves 10-15 swing states which will decide the outcome. Those states are where the focus should be.

"3. Maybe. It's a classic question of base enthusiasm versus centrist appeal."

The democratic "base" is centrist (moderate and traditional liberal) at 75%. Sanders' base is progressive.

"but it could be a McGovern situation. "

Of course, it's a McGovern situation! The swing states are more conservative than Sanders and his progressive supporters. Moderates are able to attract a wider range of supporters.

"I've criticized Trump on a number of issues and more than anything else over the years I've always been an independent thinker."

You're delusional.

reply

The democratic "base" is centrist

No it's not. That's why all the Democrats on stage, even the (not so) "moderates", were pushed by it into supporting open borders, racial "reparations", etc.. The truth is all the Democrats with a chance to get the nomination have extremist issue stances. They're also all "woke", spewing the sickening SJW drivel most Americans have long since been fed up with but that Democratic primary voters lap up and punish deviation from.

You're delusional.
Not really. Most states have already decided.

That doesn't mean it's not a national race.

reply

"No it's not."

Moderate Biden is in the lead. I told you so!

reply

Biden isn't "moderate", LOL and he's only the front runner now because the DNC strong armed Pete and Amy into dropping out right before Super Tuesday (betraying their donors and volunteers), but not Warren. It was a cynical party big wig power play and it wasn't because they object to Sanders' ideology, it was because they were terrified about his electability given him openly branding himself as a "socialist" instead of being a stealth socialist like most of the rest of the party.

You didn't respond to anything I said about Biden adopting most of the same extreme positions as Sanders that would effectively end America in any meaningful sense of the word. Biden is even more extreme than Sanders on some issues, like gun control, and just told epic failure Beta, who infamously shouted threats to voters to send armed officers to their houses to take their legally purchased AR-15s from them that he would put him in charge of his gun control efforts if elected.

reply

News flash! Warren dropped out!

reply

After Super Tuesday. The results likely would have been a lot different if she had dropped out before like Pete and Amy, at least that's the conventional wisdom the DNC was no doubt operating by.

reply

"but not Warren"

She still dropped out. Bite the bullet and admit you were wrong for a change.

reply

Wrong about what? I said she didn't drop out before Super Tuesday like Buttigieg and Klobuchar did, what the whole discussion was about, and she didn't. I was right. After that night the damage was done and of course Warren was going to drop out. She finished third in her own state. Debate honestly for a change.

reply

Try being honest with yourself. Nobody wants Sanders except a few progressives who don't vote.

Florida, Arizona, Ohio and Illinois vote on Tuesday.

reply

Sanders has almost won the Democratic Party's presidential nomination twice despite being a laughable candidate on paper. Without those targeted pre election dropouts he probably would have sewn up the race on Super Tuesday. Even now Democrats don't oppose his policies but have focused criticism on his electability. They're afraid of the fact that he overtly (more honestly) described himself as a "socialist" and a communist sympathizer, something most of the Democrat establishment is still wary of doing in an America they disrespect and hate every bit as much as Sanders does.

reply

Sanders is a Communist. He spent a honeymoon in the USSR is on record praising Castro, a Communist dictator. No amount of Orwellian bullshit about how people are calling him that because they're confusing communism for socialism will change that.

reply

And our current ridiculous POTUS is on record praising Kim Jong Un, Xi, Erdoğan, and Putin, among others...Your point?

reply

Trump is an autocrat. Trump would destroy democracy to become a dictator like his heroes Putin, Kim, Xi and Erdogan.

Bernie is a commie who would destroy capitalism and our economy with his $60 trillion budget, freebies and attacking rich people and large corporations which employ millions.

Two dangerous populists and the cultists who love them!

reply

Finally--someone who gets it.

You don't cure cancer with a bullet to the brain. Trump is an evil neoliberal Putin puppet and buffoon. Sanders is a bumbling Communist Putin puppet and buffoon. You don't counter a puppet with another puppet. You don't counter a buffoon with a buffoon.

reply

I hate Trump, too. What is your point? That because we bent over for a Rightwing Nazi Putin puppet douchebag in 2016, we should bend over for a Leftwing Communist Putin puppet douchebag in 2020? And pretend that Warren, Biden or Bloomberg aren't even viable candidates?

reply

[deleted]

He would make a good President...of Cuba.

reply

Obviously, this is going to hurt him a lot in a key swing state, Florida. Do you think the Cubans are clueless and don’t realize that, do you think they want to hurt his chances of getting elected, or they just don’t care?

reply

Latest poll is Biden 61%; Sanders 21% in Florida. Cubans tend to vote Republican but some are unhappy with Trump so they could vote for Biden. Never for Sanders, though.

reply

Who cares what Cuban newspapers say? We already have ample evidence Russians interfere with our elections (see the pro-trump posts here to start), so why should we invest energy in some effing Cuban newspaper?

reply

Fellow Communists support Bernie. Americans won't vote for a communist president.

reply

Egad, that means he's a Manchurian candidate brainwashed by Castro's ghost!

reply