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Liberals in tears! Climate activists refuse to credit Trump as U.S. emissions decline


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/feb/25/donald-trump-denied-credit-us-emissions-decline/

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"Although the Washington Times has a very strong right editorial bias, they report straight news with a much lower bias. Therefore, we rate them Right-Center biased overall, and factually mixed due to poor sourcing, holding editorial positions that are contrary to scientific consensus, and failed fact checks."
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-times/

Declining US greenhouse gas emissions: a Republican fairy tale
https://thebulletin.org/2019/10/declining-us-greenhouse-gas-emissions-a-republican-fairy-tale/#

Factual Reporting: VERY HIGH
LEAST BIASED

These sources have minimal bias and use very few loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes). The reporting is factual and usually sourced. These are the most credible media sources
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bulletin-of-the-atomic-scientists/

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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/feb/25/donald-trump-denied-credit-us-emissions-decline/

The EIA must be a fairy tale too. Liberals and Greta in tears!

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Your source isn't credible:

"Throughout its history, the Washington Times has been known for its conservative political stance. It has drawn controversy for publishing racist content, including commentary and conspiracy theories about U.S. President Barack Obama, supporting neo-Confederate historical revisionism, promoting, Islamophobia,and spreading misinformation regarding the 2019-2020 coronavirus outbreak. It has published many columns which reject the scientific consensuses on climate change, on ozone depletion, and on the harmful effects of second-hand smoke.

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So republicans are full of shit once again. I'm shocked!

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Looks like our new poster is a sock puppet of Gd5150. He always starts his thread titles with "Liberals in tears!"

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What an asshole!

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So overly obvious. I'm surprised the mods haven't caught this one yet.

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LOL! I love how your biased leftist smear blog "mediabiasfactcheck" claims "thebulletin" has "minimal bias" and uses very few "loaded words" that attempt to influence readers "by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes", yet the very headline you copy paste has the phrase "Republican fairy tale" in it. Suuuure...no loaded language or hint of bias there, LOL. Your self defeating buffoonery is awesome. Thank you for discrediting mediabiasfactcheck in your own post.

Of course the bulletin's executive chair is Jerry Brown, the former Democratic governor of California who's such an extreme lunatic that even Californians nicknamed him "Moon Beam". The bulletin is basically just a leftist lobbying outfit.

https://thebulletin.org/about-us/governing-board/

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If emissions declined, what policy enacted under Trump contributed to that decline?

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No policy.

"Global energy-related CO2 emissions flattened in 2019 at around 33 gigatonnes (Gt), following two years of increases. This resulted mainly from a sharp decline in CO2 emissions from the power sector in advanced economies, thanks to the expanding role of renewable sources (mainly wind and solar PV), fuel switching from coal to natural gas, and higher nuclear power output. "

Everything that Trump doesn't support.

Many cities are still working to lower CO2 despite Trump. Credit them.

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Thanks for factual information.

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Actually Trump, like most Republicans over the years, supports an "all the above" energy production strategy, including natural gas and nuclear (which liberals oppose). His policy was not signing on to one of these stupid socialist takeover schemes (Kyoto, Paris, whatever). The point, correctly made by Trump and others, is that the US emissions are declining without joining such a globalist agreement, more than most of those nations who signed onto those photo op "Green" accords, thanks to the free market without the need for imposing an oppressive government regulatory burden.

Your gratitude belongs with private companies whom Trump allowed the freedom to innovate.

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Trump is against green energy and believes windmills cause cancer. Most municipalities continue their green energy policies despite Trump and his policy for more coal and petrol use.

If Trump were a legitimately good president, you wouldn't need to lie about him so often.

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You're the liar, Keelai. Trump is for the free market and hasn't done anything to block wind or solar power, the way Democrats really have tried to block nuclear, natural gas, and other energy sources.

The headline is that the US has cut CO2 emissions by more than the nations that joined those stupid Kyoto/Paris photo op agreements, underscoring how pointless your comrades' weeping and gnashing of teeth over us not joining was, and we didn't need the government imposing a massive socialist scheme to do it.

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He does? You have a link to an article?

What are green energy policies? Updating to LED light bulbs? Turning down the thermostats? Using more efficient water heaters and washer and dryers and AC units? That's common sense as these businesses and homeowners receive direct benefits with lower energy costs because of reduced energy used. Now did you really need a govt policy or regulation to be enacted to entice people to save money? Apparently not, right?

The solar panel subsidies is a waste of money as it doesn't offset the need of grid power and the cost/kwatt is not in a range to be a feasible alternative yet.

Also, your guru of climate change, Al Gore owns a home that uses 3x more energy of a single home in one year. What a hypocrite, right? And that's only ONE of his multiple homes.

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As usual, there's nothing that can be attributed to Trump for the positive outcome. All indicators point to local governments doing this on their own, even going against the rhetoric of the GOP.

But a cult's gotta cult yo.

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It's absolutely ridiculous. Republicans cheer whenever Trump dismantles the EPA and relaxes emission standards. Now they want to claim that Trump has helped the environment. It's amazingly dishonest. Republicans are disgusting hypocritical scumbags.

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How stupid are both of you? Oh wait. Nevermind.

Apparently, pulling out of the Paris accords didn't affect America, did it? Thus, we didn't have to be lectured by bunch of agenda driven politicians or agenda driven scientists with their non-peer reviewed data. Not only did we save ourselves from being lectured a load of chepooka, but no chepooka policies were enacted and no new pointless regulations were enacted and yet the US still LED THE WORLD in reducing carbon emissions. That's a good thing. How you fail to acknowledge that is either stupidity or ignorance.

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And trump did nothing to advance these things. He wants to dismantle progress. So if he gets booted and the climate goes to crap, it won't be his fault, will it?

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And yet the US still led the world in carbon emission reduction. I mean, when the most important fact is glaring you in the face, you still manage to ignore it. Your talent for Ignorance is astounding!

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As usual, Trump gets it done. I assume all the yelling by Greta reduced emissions.

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Will T-rump get the big, beautiful, border wall done with Mexico paying for it ?

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What does this have to do with this thread? Well since this is potpourri, Did Obama bypass Congress and enact policy on his own via presidential memorandum, yes or no?

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What does this have to do with this thread?


My apologies, I forgot you are illiterate. I'll explain for you...

JoWilli started his response with "As usual, T-rump gets it done."

That in turn, raises the question "What is the metric he is using to make that statement, boldly claiming 'as usual - T-rump gets it done' ?"

So we go back to one of T-rump's original, boldest campaign promises - "I'm going to build a big, beautiful, border wall and Mexico will pay for it!" - for an accurate measure. Will he get this done? He's already nearly 3 and a half years behind.

So far crickets.

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Okay then. So you CONCEDE that Trump got this, reduction of carbon emissions, done, yes?

You didn't mention it at all so let's get this straight first before moving on to double jeopardy.

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Again, with your response, you prove you're illiterate.

Oh, well....God knows I tried to help you.

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And that's an Epic Fail once again on your part. No rebuttal. No proof. Just a bunch of spewing of raucous buttpain. FYI, I'm not complaining. I find it quite amusing as others do as well. I'm sorry, but I do laugh at your expense. šŸ¤ŖšŸ¤ŖšŸ¤ŖšŸ¤Ŗ

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Sorry kid. I'm not making the salary of your special ed teacher. Let her teach you reading and comprehension. Not me.

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Thank you Pee Wee for your amusing juvenile playground retort. Would you like me to connect the dots for you?

Connect the dots! La la la! Connect the dots! La la la la!

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The Earth is getting warmer everyday as indicated by the record snowfall set across America. Meanwhile Greta is flying around the World promoting climate change.

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God, what a brilliant observation. What, did snow fall in your front yard to help you decide climate change is a hoax?
Only pubs should be able to fly and participate in world affairs because they don't care about climate change? What a effing brilliant conclusion.

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Emissions have not lowered.

https://thebulletin.org/2019/10/declining-us-greenhouse-gas-emissions-a-republican-fairy-tale/#

Let's play out a hypothetical anyway. If emissions had lowered, what policy has been enacted under Trump that would have done that?

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Answer: FRACKING is legal. Duuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....

You do know that natural gas is cleaner than coal, yes?

Per Biden and reiterated by Bernie, "climate change is an existential threat..."

And yet they will end the fracking industry. Thus, the US will no longer be a net exporter and we will once again be reliant on foreign oil. So if Bernie becomes czar, no more fracking jobs. Oil prices go up. Consumers get screwed. Won't fire up the coal plants because they contribute to the "existential threat". So what? Higher prices. Higher unemployment. Higher taxes. But the air is maybe .001 part per million cleaner? Is that victory lap for you dems? šŸ¤ŖšŸ¤ŖšŸ¤ŖšŸ¤Ŗ

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Typical fear mongering. Political advances have been crappy in the US for decades, mostly because of reagan and the rest of the pubs. You think Sanders is going to bring this house of cards down suddenly? What a pitiful joke. Reaguns did more damage to the US than any prez but no one wants to admit it. We have enormous wealth disparity in the supposedly greatest economy in the world, and pubs don't want to address that in any way. Keep medical prices high, keep home ownership out of reach, don't raise the minimum wage, and watch prosperity (for the already wealthy) roll in. Throw in race-baiting xenophobia and that's a winning formula to reward the top 10%. We are a plutocracy esp when pubs have control.

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What did Reagan do damage to exactly?

Didn't you watch two debates ago? Sanders specifically said he would ban fracking and only Bloomberg said he wouldn't. Thus, that industry is gone. Jobs gone. That's basic cause and effect. Did he not say that?

So if we don't get any natural gas from fracking, where does the US make up the energy we lost from fracking? Foreign oil. Where else? That's basic common sense. How you failed to put 2 and 2 together is beyond me, but then again, what else is new?

Also because of fracking, the US has become a net exporter of energy. That means the US is making money. You end fracking, we would now be paying more for foreign oil and losing on the revenue of our exports. That's a lose lose and that's what you want? Backwards much?

Now you start bitching about the wealth disparity. Now tell me, what exactly is preventing you for gaining wealth??? How is the government oppressing you specifically from growing wealth, pray tell?

Goon, you're nothing but a pack full of talking points straight from your indoctrinated script. Don't you remember when you used to have INDEPENDENT THOUGHT? Don't you remember how nice it was to think for yourself?

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What about repeal and replace? Trump promised a new healthcare plan on day 1 that would cover everybody, be cheaper than the ACA, and cover pre-existing conditions.

Tax cuts is the only thing Trump has accomplished.

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Same question to you Bucky, since we're obviously going off topic on purpose and since this is such a sore spot for you personally. Did Obama enact policy on his own and bypassed Congress via presidential memorandum, yes or no?

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You didn't get the memo? I suppose I'll tell you in person. You are now permanently sitting at the kids table with KRL. No more of your dishonest arguments. You made your bed. Go lay in it will KRL. I feel better already! Be gone!

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I see your self imposed timeout is up. What memo? Another self-imposed memo for yourself? FYI, I don't care what memos you write to yourself. You think Ignorance is your shield and it will protect your fragile ego, but the bombardment of truth and facts will soon lead you to anxiety. It will be your Ignorance that cause for your addiction to zoloft and prozac and lithium. Only YOU can help YOURSELF. You're welcome.

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šŸ˜€ Congratulations, Sandman27, on so thoroughly defeating, humiliating, and pissing off BuckSwope that you've been added to his list of posters he'll avoid engaging, being the craven dimwitted hack he is. I find that it's even more fun kicking him around like this, when our posts refute his false claims yet he pretends to ignore us. It's a weird set up he didn't think through. At first he claimed to have really put me on "ignore" but he was caught lying about that and backpedaled into claiming he was just willfully ignoring me......in a direct exchange with me.

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Can you imagine these two clowns trying to have an in person conversation - without drugs or alcohol involved ? Geez!

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It could be an interrogation method. "Tell us what we want or you have to listen to hours of these old farts have a political discussion". They'd find out where the bomb was hidden in a matter of minutes.

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I can imagine you two having a convo. You'd have dinner and then you'd bitch about it that it was bad. The one that cooked it would then bitch that it was the supermarkets fault as their quality standards were too low. Ignorance is Strength. May your Slavery grant you Freedom.

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You lie once again. Everyone knows you can't imagine an intelligent conversation between two people. Go back on your chaise lounge and celebrate the coronavirus.

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My lie is that I can't imagine an intelligent conversation between two people? Well, it's a lie if the "two intelligent people" were you two. šŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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If youā€™ll notice there hasnā€™t been a peep about this from the Democrat media. The Democrats dont ever want to let go of an issue. This is the beauty of climate change. Itā€™s completely unmeasurable and unscientific. Now theyā€™ll have another fake issue to run for reelection on like slavery and equal pay and minimum wage and the peace de resistance, socialized medicine. Their entire existence is about acquisition of power, not solving the problems of the American people.

No ideas. No solutions. No platform. The Democrat party.

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Unmeasurable? You can't measure temperature now? You can't measure the size of ice sheets in the artic?

You really didn't think it out before you typed that.

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Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha!

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You canā€™t measure climate ā€œchange/disruptionā€ which is what their political cause has chosen to name it this week. This was done specifically because itā€™s unmeasurable. They used to call it population bomb. Then peak oil. Then global cooling. Then ozone hole. Then Global warming. All measurable. Then they decided it was change. Then disruption. Now weā€™re back to ā€œchangeā€. Clearly ā€œchangeā€ focus groups better. Ironically The focus grouping of terms is the only real science in their political cause.

Iā€™m sure you care about the environment as the rest of us do. And Iā€™m sure you think you know something on this subject because someone you trust spoon fed you their flavor of the weak cherry picked data. But you really should study and learn the scientific method.

The scientific method is not a popularity contest. It doesnā€™t take a vote. It doesnā€™t measure ā€œconsensusā€. To be proven a scientific theory requires hard measurable data and repeatable results that can be tested and proven. In this case ā€œchangeā€ cannot be measured because the Earths climate has never been a flatline. Itā€™s changed for 4.5 billion years and will continue to change for the rest of its existence.

The people backing todayā€™s political movement called ā€œclimate changeā€ continue to ignore China and India, the 2 biggest producers of co2, the so-called cause behind climate change. The political cause, as with everything communists push, is about acquisition of power. A way to allow the elites to control people. It was when it was population bomb. And it is with todayā€™s ā€œclimate disruptionā€.

The scientific method exists specifically to prevent real science from being hijacked for political/religious causes. Like when science said the Earth was the center of the universe for 2000 years. It exists to prevent the suppression of study of new ideas. The exact reason the communists behind the cause continuously cite ā€œconsensusā€.

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"There are many hypotheses in science which are wrong. That's all right. It's the aperture to finding out what's right.
Science is a self-correcting process.
To be accepted, new ideas must survive the most rigorous standards of evidence and scrutiny.

The worst aspect of the Velikovsky affair is not that many of his ideas were wrong or silly or in gross contradiction to the facts.
Rather, the worst aspect is that some scientists attempted to suppress Velikovsky's ideas.

The suppression of uncomfortable ideas may be common in religion or in politics, but it is not the path to knowledge.
And there's no place for it in the endeavor of science. We do not know beforehand where fundamental insights will arise from about our mysterious and lovely solar system. And the history of our study of the solar system shows clearly that accepted and conventional ideas are often wrong and that fundamental insights can arise from the most unexpected sources." - Carl Sagan

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I thought t-Rump is a climate change denier.

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Psychopathy.

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