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Corporatist dems just won’t learn..


It seems like the lessons of 2016 went right over their head.

A large amount of Americans rightfully think the system is broken and only serves the wealthy and powerful.

Giving them a status quo candidate won’t work anymore. And yet they are dead set on repeating 2016 again and do whatever they can to sabotage Bernie.

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Middle America farmers are going to vote for the commie! What are you smoking?

Boohoo, Hillary was mean to Bernie in 2016. Boohoo! And the DNC is being mean again - boohoo some more!

Cry me a river!

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Yes middle Americans will vote for a man promising to bring back industry and give them jobs.

Lol the Nordic model is now communism lol.

Please tell me who has been crying since 2016 Bernie or shillary? Be honest for once ?

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I wish I could share your enthusiasm I have serious doubts, however.

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I don’t believe it because “I really hope so” I’m going off the numbers.

Bernie has the most volounteers. The most donors.has raised the most money. And in a recent poll against trump does the best. Better than any other candidate.

I don’t base my opinions off feelings. I go with the facts

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I'm pulling for him.

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I can’t know anything for sure. Especially Something as complicated as elections and millions of voters. But the data we do have shows he has a better chance.

The other corporate dems are weak..Bloomberg has a horrible history and is exactly what Americans rejected last time

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Interesting.

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"Bloomberg has a horrible history and is exactly what Americans rejected last time"

They did NOT reject it. They voted for it!
IN 2016, Americans wanted a rich, successful businessman who knew how to help the economy in middle America. Unfortunately, they voted for that con artist Trump who filed for bankruptcy numerous times and knows zip about running a successful company .
Bloomberg is a true successful businessman who helped bring economic strength to NYC - a city with a larger population than 38 states.

"I can’t know anything for sure. Especially Something as complicated as elections and millions of voters. But the data we do have shows he has a better chance."

Nonsense. There are political strategists who make a living knowing this information. They have the data and I listen to them closely. You're living in fantasy land.

Listen to this Republican strategist who helped win 2,000 seats from democrats in 20 years. I've been trying to explain his strategy to you all day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vdiw7IkWRJ4
"Democrats play to win an argument. Republicans play to win an election."

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Comparing Bloomberg’s corporate insider vs trump who ran as a populist. Lol you are dumb.

lol you are so dumb. Hahahahah man please stop embarassing yourself. We all know you have a tiny wiener. Now it’s confirmed you have a small brain as will.

Please tell me what Nate silver (a known Bernie hater) and his always accurate poll analyzer and predicting company says

BERNIE

Did you really post a Trevor Noah video as evidence..

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Comparing Bloomberg’s corporate insider vs trump who ran as a populist.

Trump is a populist who ran on his business "success" which was an illusion. Trump is a corporate insider too dummy. Why do you think he gave a trillion dollar tax cut to corporations, billionaires and hedge-fund managers? Unlike Trump, Bloomberg is a successful entrepreneur and businessman who started off middle-class.

Meanwhile you're still bad-mouthing corporations and still typing on your iPhone which you bought from a corporation, hypocrite.

"Did you really post a Trevor Noah video as evidence.."
Sure did. I know you don't read books.

National polls are irrelevant. If you were a real political science major then you would know the reason.

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Omg you are so stupid. Post more Trevor Noah videos.

While telling me the political analysts know but when I give polls tell me “polls are bogus” lol

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Your polls predicted Clinton would win.

It's obvious you don't read books.
https://images.fastcompany.net/image/upload/w_596,c_limit,q_auto:best,f_auto/fc/3057613-inline-s-7-this-coloring-book-features-a-shirtless-ripped-bernie.jpg

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You need help man. You are unhinged

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"I’m done talking to you"

Blah, blah!

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Seek help. Before you do something horrible

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"I’m done talking to you"

Promises, promises!

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are you oaky? seriously seek before you do something horrible. your re clearly suffering form mental illness

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The fact you think it’s “nonsenses” that I said analysts don’t know for sure shows you are an uneducated peasant.

Fuxk you are dumb man

Lol so what happened to the analysts with shillary?

Amazing how all the polls you don’t like don’t exist. All the ones that disproved you you now ignore. And now where is your polls showing Bernie can’t win? Show me your candidates polls?

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I don't have a candidate, dummy.

Political analysts do have demographic data of different regions, moron.

"what happened to the analysts with shillary?"
Dummy, her campaign was showing her numbers going down in a Wisconsin region and she chose to ignore it. I already told you she ran a poor campaign just like I'm telling you Bernie will lose too.

Polls are irrelevant. Candidates own data research is more accurate, dummy. If you were a true political science major, then you would know that! If you have a masters in it, then you should be working for a campaign with access to raw political data. You're so full of it!

Read this and weep!
"Socialism and Atheism Still U.S. Political Liabilities
Majority in U.S. would not support a socialist for president"
https://news.gallup.com/poll/285563/socialism-atheism-political-liabilities.aspx

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Lol another embarassing post

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Read this and weep!
"Socialism and Atheism Still U.S. Political Liabilities
Majority in U.S. would not support a socialist for president"
https://news.gallup.com/poll/285563/socialism-atheism-political-liabilities.aspx

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So no statistics about Bernie a campaign or his matchup with trump lol. As I said. Small dicked beta hahhaha

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You mean commie crybaby Bernie? LOL!

I know he doesn't have your vote because you're not registered.

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Hey, political science major with a masters, you should have access to data at your job working for a campaign.

Trevor Noah? What's wrong, you never heard of Rick Wilson, political science major?

You're a sad, sad liar.

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Lol had to report my comment so it’d get removed because I embarrassed you

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Not me. Your idiocy actually amuses me.

There are monitors who read posts and remove them. I'm going to assume you had a potty mouth in your deleted post. Tsk, tsk!

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The Nordic model is social democracy. Bernie is a democratic socialist. Big difference!
I bet you don't know what it is without trying to google the answer.

"middle Americans will vote for a man promising to bring back industry and give them jobs."
Rural Americans in middle America will vote for Trump. Those are the ones without jobs and from a dying industry. You don't really believe Bernie can bring back coal mines, do you? And why would you want him to?

Suburbanites (who have jobs), former Republican women who are older, former Obama/Trump voters who are disillusioned, evangelicals and Christians with a moral awakening, never Trumpers, moderate Republicans and moderate Democrats are not progressives. Their values are very centrists. They won't vote for a commie. They'll vote for a moderate.

Historically, moderates of both parties win the presidential elections because they need to build a coalition that attracts a wide range of people like I just named.

For years I didn't like Clinton nor Obama because I thought they were too moderate. That was by design because that's how presidential elections are won. I don't argue with the facts. I accept them and move on. You like to argue and hope the world can be different from the reality. If you've been on this site long enough, then you'd know that conservatives don't want to become progressives. Compromise means that Democrats and moderate Republicans join together to defeat Trump. You continue to live in Lala Land.

Why should I answer your questions when you were to wimpy to answer any of mine? Wimp!

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I have a masters in political science. Lol but please lecture me more :)

He has said he would replace coal jobs with green ones. Please stop confusing your own lack of knowledge with Bernie not addressing a topic.

You literally got mad for me saying trump voters weren’t a single bloc lol.

You must of missed the last election. You are stuck in 1998 lol hahha wimp? Seek help. Small dick beta

You are a little dog overcompensating

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"I have a masters in political science."
Then how come you don't know the difference between a socialist democrat and a democratic socialist?

"He has said he would replace coal jobs with green ones."
Which is what Hillary said and the former coal miners said F her! They made it clear they reject clean energy jobs and being retrained. You need to listen more.

"You literally got mad for me saying trump voters weren’t a single bloc"
Copy paste that quote. I dare you!

"You must of missed the last election"
Must of? You have a masters? I don't think so.

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Yaa cause I care about spelling and grammar on moviechat.org.


Give up on life you emabrassement.

Hilary didn’t step foot in coal country you dumb fuck

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"Hilary didn’t step foot in coal country"

From 2016 article:
Hillary Clinton, who is campaigning in Appalachia this week, was confronted Monday by an out-of-work coal miner.

Rather than reversing Obama's climate agenda, as Republicans have promised to do, Clinton wants to help coal country adapt. The $30 billion plan she released last fall calls for increased job training, small-business development, and infrastructure investment, especially in Appalachia. The plan also seeks to safeguard miners' healthcare and pensions. "I have been talking about helping coal country for a very long time," Clinton said this week.
https://www.npr.org/2016/05/03/476485650/fact-check-hillary-clinton-and-coal-jobs

Obviously, you're the dumb one! Political science major my a**!

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I’m embarrassed for you and your family. Seriously man

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You own Hillary an apology for lying about her.

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Hahahhah up your meds.

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"Hilary didn’t step foot in coal country"

You still own her an apology. I see you have no honor.

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Up your medication you sad sad loser.

Firstly it’s spelled “owe”. Maybe next time don’t be a spelling nazi about my writing when you can’t even spell owe.

Lol “honour”? What is this 18th century japan?

I’m embarrassed for you

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"Lol “honour”?"

You just confirmed the fact that you have no honor. You're a loser, liar, slacker, and high school dropout who has to pretend he has a masters in political science. Next time, pick a subject you're not completely ignorant like weed.

Honour? Are you even American?

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Are you retarded?

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Canadian

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https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-trump-poll-election-2020-biden-bloomberg-1483423%3famp=1

“Bernie leads trump by the largest margin of all candidates”

Embarassing

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"Democrat Hillary Clinton defeats Republican Donald Trump 46% to 36% " according to your pollster back in 2016.

Embarrassing

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And she did win the popular vote. Again. Your feelings don’t change the facts

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So what? If it meant anything, she'd be in the White House.

Like political strategist Rick Wilson said, the presidential election isn't about who wins the popular vote. It's about who wins the Electoral College. Like Clinton, you don't understand the rules of the game. That's why she lost and you're a loser.

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I don't see how name calling helps here. Sorry !

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wait what what. did you just really post a republican conservative strategist and former Bush and Giuliani employee talking as Trevor Noah as proof Bernie can't win?

LOLOLOLOL

you do realize an analysis of Trump vs Clintons ads showed trump talked more about policy than Clinton.

did you miss where he brags about taking 2000 state seats from dems? you do know who most of these were lost under right? Obama your hero

https://www.quorum.us/data-driven-insights/under-obama-democrats-suffer-largest-loss-in-power-since-eisenhower/291/

This is your incrementalism at work.

yet again.You chose the narrow circumstance you wanted to suit your narrative. you ignore the facts and polls that don't comport with you feelings.

I gave you the polls you said "everyone knows polls aren't accurate!"

when I said political analysts don't know everything there are so many variables and aren't always right you said "of course they are its their job they look at all the data!!!"

which one is it? the data they look at is accurate or they don't know?

this is your problem. you can't handle reality that disagree with your fragile opion

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You're clueless! If your former enemy wants to reveal secrets on how they beat you for 20 years, then why wouldn't you take it? "Political science major with a masters" , you should know that the U.S. government gladly accepted information from former Soviets who defected.

It's also obvious that the DNC is taking some of the advice because they changed strategy within the past two years and have now been winning elections especially in 2018.

You must have been a D- average student, "political science major with a masters". Which fast food chain are you working for?

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Lol. Yet again. I gave the facts and polls. You’ve given me a Trevor Noah video.

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You still own Hillary an apology for lying.

You gave no facts nor polls. You did lie about Hillary and you were caught. Apologize to Hillary!

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I gave you the fact Bernie raised more, had more donors, had more volunteers. And polls the best against trump.

You are a sad fucking loser. Stop embarrassing yourself

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While you sit at home doing nothing, I''ll be voting for the moderate along with millions of other voters.

Crybaby Bernie, will lose the nomination, again.

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According to Bernie hating but respectable 385 which is probably the most accurate organization. Bernie will win.

But you hate facts so. I can’t wait to taste your tears

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaMG6zWWAAAvBvl.jpg

"I can’t wait to taste your tears"
Eww! Pervert!

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https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.commondreams.org/news/2020/02/11/sanders-crushes-trump-18-points-among-independent-voters-new-national-general%3famp


https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1137031

“ According to a poll conducted by Morning Consult the day after the New Hampshire primary, the self-described democratic socialist leads the pack of candidates among Democratic primary voters nationwide, with 29 percent of potential voters saying they’d vote for him if their state’s caucus or primary were held today.”

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2020/1/31/21113780/bernie-sanders-socialism-electability-primaries

“Bernie Sanders leads Donald Trump in polls, even when you remind people he’s a socialist“


https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2020/2/3/21083839/bernie-sanders-trump-conservatism-iowa-2020

Even trump admits he is scared of Bernie. So who who despite all these facts and polls are worried he can’t win? THE CORPORATE SHILL DEMOCRATS.

Hmmm I wonder why?

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"Even trump admits he is scared of Bernie".

Nonsense. If he were afraid of him, he would've attacked Bernie instead of Biden and then Bloomberg. Trump's strategy is to attack his main opponent first, "political science major with a masters".

A progressive site, two opinion pieces and a progressive poll are your evidence? "Political science major with a masters", when are you going to admit you dropped out of high school?

You still own Hillary an apology for lying.

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You have to be really stupid to believe a pathological liar like Trump.

You can print this out and hang it on your wall.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaMG6zWWAAAvBvl.jpg

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Do I believe trump believes things? Omg now you are saying things he said in confidence. Secretly recorded when speaking to his team. Was actually a lie. Is he playing 4 dimensional chess? Lol

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"I’m done talking to you"

But, yet you continue.

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Just in according to keelia.

Me saying “Even trump admits he is scared of Bernie".

Him “Nonsense.”

He actually said trump was losing to his own team one a recording took in secret

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"I’m done talking to you"

Still yakking away!

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Seek help

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"I’m done talking to you"

Yawn!

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Are you into embarrassing and humiliation? lol. I’ve destroyed you every time it’s embarrassing.

Seek help

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