Thanks to T- rumps unfulfilled campaign promise to save coal mining energy and pushing for clean coal, the nations largest private coal miner located in West Virginia has declared bankruptcy. Murray Energy filed for bankruptcy, putting hundreds out of work and their pensions in limbo. They follow many other smaller American coal companies which have gone bankrupt in the past few years.
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Double standard much, Doggie?
shareNot enough, Sandy.
shareThis is not enough of a double standard for you?
shareWhy would you see this as a double standard for me?
shareLet me ask you a binary question. Does this make you happy or sad?
shareSad.
Let me ask you a binary question. Does this make you happy or sad?
Okay. Now elaborate.
For me, I'm indifferent.
For me, I'm sad to hear any business in our country folding. I'm sad to hear of people losing their jobs, their health insurance, their pensions, etc. when a company goes bankrupt - especially one as big as Murray Energy. I'm sad for the long-term effect it will have in the community - especially the economic and the psychological. And I feel bad for all the voters who were swindled by T-rump's empty promise of 'saving their coal mining industry and pushing for clean coal - an oxymoron which those voters failed to see in 2016 - and now paying the consequence.
Now, elaborate on why you feel 'indifferent'.
Rest assured, I will elaborate in time.
Now tell me what did you think Trump should've done exactly?
I've answered your question in detail, now it's time to elaborate on your answer. Then I'll be glad to answer the next question.
shareFine. If you read the article, you'd notice that the company couldn't compete against the low prices of natural gas. What is that called? An alternative product that gives consumers a choice. If a company goes bankrupt because it was unable to compete within its own industry, then that is the market correcting itself. I have zero issues with that and the government should not bail out any company because the market priced it out. This is basic market competition. This is the reason why monopolies are not good and how a capitalistic system keeps prices low.
Is it the government's job to run the company, or the CEO? Is it the government's job to tax natural gas to make it more expensive so people will buy coal instead? Is that what you want?
In contrast, you probably praised Obama for bailing out the auto industry. Is it the government's fault that GM makes crappy cars? Is it the government's fault that GM is at the mercy of the UAW? Why do the taxpayers have to pay to bail out a private company, pray tell?
All those workers you mention. Were they forced to work there at gun point or was their employment voluntary? Can they not see the trend the company was moving towards while they were there and act accordingly? Did the CEO fail? Yes, so how is that the fault of Trump and the government? What consequences are the workers paying for, exactly? Wouldn't they have faced the exact same consequences if Hilary were President? And most probably sooner.
Now answer my question. You're already behind the 8-ball because I don't buy a single reason you stated. With your initial post, everybody knows you were smugly tee-heeing like a fairy at the news.
If you don't buy 'a single reason I stated' then there's no reason for me to waste my time trying to have a conversation with you. If you think I'm 'smugly tee-heeing' (sounds like you're projecting) so be it - again, no reason why I need to continue this with you.
But I should point out your lack of empathy for these American workers soon to be out of a job and soon to be without a pension is well-noted. Now we know who we're dealing with on this forum.
That's your answer? Pathetic. Then again, I shouldn't be surprised since this wouldn't be covered on your indoctrinated script of answers. And like I stated in the other thread, you're not too smart, are you, Doggie? What else is new? 🙄
But in reality, you can't answer it because you know I'm right. A private company failed due to market competition. That's called losing FAIR AND SQUARE. Should everybody be given a participation trophy so nobody is a loser even though they are?
I'm projecting that you're tee-heeing like a fairy? Look at your thread titles? "WINNING!" Puh-leeze! It's blatantly obvious to everybody.🙄
Oh, and the fact that you took offense to it, Triggered much? 😂
As I said to your dummy account, go back into the corner and put your dunce cap back on. Remember, it's not to let people know you're stupid. It's to remind you that you're stupid.
But in reality, you can't answer it because you know I'm right. A private company failed due to market competition. That's called losing FAIR AND SQUARE. Should everybody be given a participation trophy so nobody is a loser even though they are?
So then answer my question. What did you expect Trump to do, exactly?
Is clean coal cheaper than natural gas? Outside of taxing natural gas, what did you expect him to do? And if he taxed natural gas, what would that have done to ALL consumers? Do you see the If then reasoning, or is that outside your intelligence level too? 🙄
I see. It's all Trump's fault. Those workers couldn't think for themselves and see what was happening to the company they worked for as they worked for their company. You do know that people have brains and those brains can be used for INDIVIDUAL THOUGHT. Apparently, those workers were just lemmings being led and were incapable of thinking for themselves. You know what that's like first hand, don't you comrade? 🙄
Yes, it's a Republican narrative. Oh the horror that people think for themselves. Oh the horror that private companies go bankrupt because they cannot stay competitive. Oh the horror of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Socialist much?
Thank you for the proof of your tee-heeing like a fairy. Sit in the corner, doggie, sit. Good boy! 🤣
I had no expectations of what T-rump would do. I was befuddled when he promised he was going to 'save the clean coal industry', since clean coal is an oxymoron.
What did you expect T-rump to do to live up to his promises? What's FOX telling you to say in their talking points?
None of my questions answered except you had no expectations from Trump. Then what the hell are you posting this for in the first place? That's proof you were tee-heeing like a fairy when you posted it. You don't care about the workers. You only care about "Orange man bad". Indoctrinated much?Seriously, how stupid are you?🙄
So you're sad about the outcome of a private company going bankrupt and the fallout that it comes with it because it was unable to compete with other competitors. So were you sad when JC Penny's closed or K-Mart or all the other companies and restaurants that couldn't compete in the market? And what do you think the role of government is for these companies, exactly?
How many times did Obama mention clean coal? Pray tell? You're such a hypocrite that everybody could see, but you wear your Ignorance like a proud shield. What a joke!🙄
What did he promise, exactly? For the record, he did what ANY President should've done. Nothing.
You lot are pathetic. You're all anti coal, till ONE company goes belly up and you think you can "blame" T-rump, just like you're anti-military till T-rump says something about a vet with an anti-Trump agenda, then you're all "Ooo-rah!!".
Freshly polished glass is less transparent than you.
Face the cod hard truth, kid - your Savior promised to "save the coal mining industry" in 2016 and buttered you all up with the term "clean coal". Pathetic T-rumpers bought it, everyone else severely doubted the snake-oil salesman, and look where we are today.
Your savior failed you ONCE again.
The "cod hard" truth, huh? Preoccupied much? I guess mentioning Obama's dick really stuck with you!
Your obvious fixation aside, attempting to use one company going belly up as an example, is beyond delusional, but then antifa doesn't exactly embrace logic and common sense.
I guess mentioning Obama's dick really stuck with you!
Pathetic fail. You're truly a child. I'll say it again, my comment was misdirected at Kingswood. It was intended for you and you and everyone else know it. Trying to use an acknowledged, misdirected comment in your imbecilic rhetoric is beyond pathetic even by your standards. Give it up and quit humiliating yourself already.
shareIt’s quite impossible to misdirect a comment on this forum as you claim, since you have to hit the reply button to the person you’re responding to. In this case it was fellow comrade Kingswood and you really laid into him. Don’t back pedal - it’s not working.
shareComplete, delusional nonsense. It's QUITE possible to hit the reply button on the wrong post so stop with your ridiculous, ineffective tactic. You look more idiotic than usual.
shareOnce - maybe. Two or three times? Impossible. You deliberately decided to go to war with your own comrade. Typical republican - doesn't know what the hell they're doing.
shareGive it up. You KNOW, as well as anyone reading the thread, it was a clear case of mistaken identity. What? You think I was defending YOU? Dream on.
shareWhy do you care about coal mining all of a sudden?
shareI care about the poor Americans out of a job who bought into T-rump's campaign promise that he was going to save the coal mining industry. Now look where they are.
How do you feel about another broken campaign promise by him?
No you don't. You support all the green energy crap which would have taken their jobs anyway.
shareObama got a fuckton of flack from conservatives for "killing" the coal mining industry, but like...who cares? Next we'll be bashing Trump for killing off VHS's or something.
shareIts Trump's fault a private business is run poorly and can't succeed in this great economy?
shareChevrolet declared bankrupsy also. It is just a thing to change the way bills get paid.
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