Ukraine president strongly reiterates NO pressure or quid pro quo by Trump.

They push the Russian conspiracy theory for three years despite its baselessness and absurdity, then when it's resoundingly debunked they just move on without any remorse or admission they were wrong. They're too stupid to realize that behavior and the utter lack of scruples it reveals destroys their credibility.

The OP is more smokescreen. Notice how it focuses on quid pro quo. There never needed to be a pro quo. This is the Trumpers' new "no collusion" tactic. Trump asking Ukraine to look into Biden is the only crime the impeachment inquiry needs to look at.

Same with focusing on the whistleblowers who initiated the complaint. Its a Trumpian tactic to make people think impeachment is hinging on it. The whistleblower complaint prompted Trump's WH to release the transcripts. Impeachment is hinging on those transcripts. The whistleblower complaint is now meaningless.

Whenever you see a topic about the trustworthiness of the whistleblower or quid pro quo, its a deflection. Because its all they have.

All principles involved and the transcript itself showing no wrongdoing is more impressive than anything you’ve got, which is nothing. You failed my challenge to even name what law Trump supposedly broke. Your impeachment push is pure partisan hackery, a more serious subversion of democracy than anything Russia or Ukraine did.

Oh, and the thing about that Ukrainian prosecutor is that he'd already completed his investigation into Biden's company by the time he was removed.

Guiliani's awesome. He broke the Mafia, saved NYC (whose voters only finally gave a Republican a chance after decades because Democrats had thrown their hands up and declared the then cesspool "ungovernable"), became "America's Mayor" for his laudable handling of 9/11, and has helped expose the Bidens' apparent corruption.

I'd take Guiliani over your boy Avenatti any day, buttercup.

Wrong. For one thing the Ukrainians still deny any pressure or quid pro quo, as my thread says. So does the White House. "Quid pro quo" refers to personal "quid pro quo", not quid pro quo for the nation to further US policy, the type of pressuring that's common. That's the sort of quid pro quo Biden bragged about when he threatened to withhold a billion dollars unless Ukraine fired the prosecutor. For another, Mulvaney did not say anything about "investigating Democrats", but said that Trump mentioned in passing a desire to get to the bottom of 2016 election interference, as Democrats like Adam Schiff, Obama officials, and Mueller had been contacting foreigners ostensibly trying to do.

Mulvaney's actual point, if you watched the whole thing in context, was that the US routinely withholds funding for all sorts of policy reasons. He spent several paragraphs making clear that this particular withholding was over other countries not paying their fair share to Ukraine and concerns about Ukraine's rampant corruption.

But this wasn't even the policy quid pro quo Biden claims to have engaged in. Because the Ukrainians didn't know about the withholding. They didn't find out about it until more than a month after the phone call.

"When Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky spoke with President Donald Trump in the now-infamous July 25 phone call, he believed $391 million worth of military aid was already on its way to Kiev, two Ukrainian officials and a US official told BuzzFeed News.

The Ukrainian government didn’t know it was being held up in Washington by Trump, according to the two Ukrainian officials. Nearly a month after the call — which Zelensky has since described as “good” and Trump has called “perfect” — the Ukrainian government was left stumped when they received word that the aid had in fact been suspended.

Ukraine was expecting $250 million from the Pentagon, plus another $141 million from the State Department, and officials described panic at the news that they wouldn’t be getting the aid they relied upon to fight Russia in a war that has now gone on for more than five years.

“Yes, of course, we were worried, because actually we didn’t find any plausible reason” for the hold-up, said Oleksiy Semeniy, an aide for then-secretary of the National Security and Defense Council Oleksandr Danylyuk.

Ukraine finally learned about the holdup in late August, nearly a month after the call, according to Olena Zerkal, the deputy foreign minister who was acting minister at the time of the call. And they only found out from a “letter sent to us from our Washington Embassy” that provided no explanation for the move, she said. Zerkal said she couldn’t remember the exact date of the letter, but it was before Politico broke the news of the holdup on Aug. 28.

The US official, who spoke to BuzzFeed News on the condition of anonymity, confirmed this timeline and said Ukraine was kept out of the loop on the aid holdup because it was thought that the issue would be solved quickly."

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/christopherm51/ukraine-unaware-aid-holdup-month-after-trump-call

While you linked to a blog post by an anti-Trump activist that was about polling data with laughably loaded question wording, not legal analysis, my source is a leftist outfit whose independent reporting has confirmed what other news sources have said.

So the temporary withholding wasn't about "pressuring" Ukraine at all. It was a pause to assess the situation in hopes that the money wouldn't be wasted, as Trump has been doing with foreign aid around the world. In other words, a competent administration doing its job and looking out for US taxpayers.