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Anyone watched the 3rd democratic debate?

posted 5 years ago by Rorikon (16361)
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Pretty much like the 1st debate:

-Catered to minorities (lol, no one talks about whites even though they're 53% of the population).
-Catering to latino's with Spanish speak and illegals (expired visa or influx at the border).
-Some reparations for blacks
-Moderates vs radicals medicare for all (including illegals) where one doesn't want to give you choice and the other wants to give u choice on your private insurance.
-Mandatory buy back on guns (confiscation basically) on assault style weapons.
-Gang ups on Biden and his Obama love
-Yang again got one of the least speaking time along with Klobuchar but he got the most applause from just the time he got to spoke.

[–] elcamino (15540) 5 years ago

Didn't watch it but from peoples reading Beto is desperate.

[–] Galilguy (2326) 5 years ago

I tried to watch, I really did, but it was like a bad "Saturday Night Live" skit with a make believe audience and no laugh track. They're all unelectable. They are absolutely herding working, law abiding, security conscious people toward Trump..

[–] Burk48917 (10966) 5 years ago

Yeah, and the funny part is how they are appealing to about 10% of the country, but they think it's 60%. Politicians are going to QUICKLY catch on to the fact that the vocal majority is actually a small minority...but I don't think the Dems will learn the lesson in time to save their ass.

[–] krl97a (5619) 5 years ago

(lol, no one talks about whites even though they're 53% of the population).

Actually non-Hispanic whites are over 60% of the population, and much higher if you're talking about voting age citizens.

I didn't watch it, but reportedly they didn't ask a single question about the economy or abortion, which is telling. I don't recall ever hearing about a major national debate where the economy (particularly jobs and wages), traditionally the most important political issue, didn't come up.

On abortion they're probably afraid of getting into postnatal infanticide on national tv, recently legalized in New York (for babies that survive abortion attempts) and pushed by radical liberals in other states, as that could shock and horrify most Americans who aren't political junkies and have heard little to nothing about this in their mainstream entertainment/news consumption.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I watched some of it.

Didn't gain any information about the candidates, and got bored, so I turned it off. These debates come down to personality and soundbites. If you've been following the race at all, you've probably heard the candidates' spiels already.

[–] slimone (7996) 5 years ago

I saw part of on tv and the rest on radio. It was pretty interesting the way Kamala Harris went after Joe Biden.

[–] Padeen (6459) 5 years ago

Biden must be losing his memory. He said they didn't put people in cages under the Obama Administration. You could here people yelling "yes you did!" lol.

[–] Keelai (31779) 5 years ago

Do you believe child abuse is funny?

[–] Padeen (6459) 5 years ago

Not even going to dignify that with a response, but I will say its astounding he would blatantly lie on live TV when the debate was being fact checked in real time. Or perhaps it was a memory lapse, again.

[–] Keelai (31779) 5 years ago

Stop trying to justify child abuse by lying about the previous administration. It's Trump and his ilk who hate Hispanics unlike the Democrats who are a diversified party.

[–] Padeen (6459) 5 years ago

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-build-cages-immigrants/

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2019/sep/13/joe-biden/fact-checking-biden-use-cages-during-obama-adminis/

[–] Keelai (31779) 5 years ago

There was no white supremacist policy to tear Hispanic children away from their parents and isolate them in cages with no soap, flu shots, food, and showers in overcrowded conditions within concentration camps hoping for them to die. Under Obama and previous administrations, families were kept together with most living with relatives or friends in apartments or houses while they waited for an immigration hearing.

Stop trying to justify child abuse. Defending this evil is equivalent to the same vile mindset of hatred from people who supported the Holocaust and Pol Pot's regime. Why are you trying to justify harming young children?

[–] Padeen (6459) 5 years ago

I'm not trying to justify anything, just pointing on the hypocrisy.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/461230-biden-incorrectly-claims-obama-administration-didnt-separate-families

[–] Keelai (31779) 5 years ago

You are justifying child abuse and you didn't even read your own link which clearly states that separating families was NOT a part of Obama policy. On very rare occasions, a parent was arrested if they committed a felony like drug trafficking. That has nothing to do with Trump's present policy of keeping children in cages permanently after they are separated from their parents.

Stop trying to find excuses for abusing children because they're not white. It's vile.

[–] Padeen (6459) 5 years ago

My point has never been about separating families. It's about Biden either forgetting or lying about the cages during the debate. That's it. Please don't bother responding to this comment.

[–] Keelai (31779) 5 years ago

You don't get to pretend that two entirely different policies are the same thing by cherry picking. Trump's policy is evil.

[–] Padeen (6459) 5 years ago

That's not cherry picking. The cages have been front and center of the immigration debate, so its shocking that either Bidens memory is failing or he's just lying. He's continually putting his foot in his mouth and these things need to be pointed out before he gets to the more serious debates against Trump.

Please do not respond or I'm going to assume your a paid troll.

[–] Keelai (31779) 5 years ago

It is cherry picking because you're conveniently omitting children being separated from their parents and placed in overcrowded cages without adequate food, water and soap for the long term.

That's totally different from a few hours of processing and arresting a rare parent for drug trafficking.

I couldn't care less about the assumptions of anyone who supports and justifies child abuse. If you wish to stop the dialogue, then you are free not to reply.

[–] Padeen (6459) 5 years ago

Sure, but not before I say fuck off. Congratulations as the first person to be on my ignore list : 0

[–] Keelai (31779) 5 years ago

It appears the wimp couldn't handle the truth.

[–] chilone (17251) 5 years ago

The parents are responsible for what happens to their kids. Period.

[–] Keelai (31779) 5 years ago

That's shifting blame and an attempt at justifying child abuse from a government. If you support evil policies from a sociopath leader then you're guilty too.

[–] chilone (17251) 5 years ago

Nope.

[–] Keelai (31779) 5 years ago

I'll explain why you're guilty.

Three things are needed to create a "Toxic Triangle":
1) A society with growing financial inequities.

2) Some people feel marginalized economically or socially. They look for scapegoats to blame.

3) A malignant narcissist and sociopath leader who tells these people what they want to hear by making promises to help them and harm the scapegoats (immigrants) who are the target of their hate, fear and anger. The people feel empowered through him.

The leader and people feed off each other. They worship him which feeds his narcissism. They also feel empowered through him. Outwardly these leaders are charming and charismatic which attracts followers, but the leader only cares about himself.

He targets the scapegoat for harm since paranoia, sadism, and lack of empathy are part of his make-up.

This creates a "normalization of evil": concentration camps, separation of families, child abuse, mass murder.

He uses the excuse of creating an "ideal" for his growing sadism against the scapegoat. Followers have shut down their reason and conscience to support and engage in immoral behavior.

Classic. Lessons not learned from Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin. History repeating itself in the U.S. Thankfully the Founding Fathers put protections into place against tyranny or it would be a lot worst by now.

When Trump is long gone and you find your life hasn't improved, you're going to feel like crap for supporting him and his horrible actions by being part of the Toxic Triangle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ8Fp55OFQ8

[–] chilone (17251) 5 years ago

What a bunch of ridiculous projecting and armchair psychology. Fail.

[–] Keelai (31779) 5 years ago

Obviously, you don't understand "projecting". You're the one who supports child abuse - not me.

Not armchair. It's history. Sociologists, psychologists, psychiatrists and political scientists study why Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao came to power and the reasons why people followed them. Trump suffers from the same disorders they did.
https://www.amazon.com/Dangerous-Case-Donald-Trump-Psychiatrists/dp/B076245F8N

[–] chilone (17251) 5 years ago

You are so lost and out of reality, you don't even know reality exists.

[–] Keelai (31779) 5 years ago

Trump's policy is to separate children from their parents and place them in cages with inadequate food, water and hygiene. That is a reality.

If you support this policy, then you support child abuse. That is the truth.

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[–] Keelai (31779) 5 years ago

Judges admonishing Trump lawyer who defends not giving children soap, toothpaste, toothbrushes and blankets for extended period of time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRjUyr_36MY
You really want to defend this?

You appear to be contradicting yourself. You are saying Trump is not trustworthy.

But, at the same time, you appear to support a child separation policy from a not trustworthy president.

[–] ultravioletx (10212) 5 years ago

If you talked about Trump's policy versus Obama's, you'd see the real difference. Focusing on cages being built ignores what really happened.

[–] elcamino (15540) 5 years ago

I'm 6' tall. No way I can even fit in a Prius even if Biden wants to try and make me have to drive one of that junk cars.