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ADMIRAL JANEWAY vs CAPTAIN BURNHAM (Zora's interest in Audrey Hepburn & Doris Day)


Here's where the 25 yr OLDER ADMIRAL JANEWAY Meets the younger CAPTAIN JANEWAY version of herself or her 25 yr YOUNGER SELF in ST: VOYAGER:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8a7Z5OisBE

Admiral Janeway Beams Aboard USS Voyager (2378)

And here's where Capt. Burnham meets her YOUNGER self in ST: DISCOVERY:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw87XjLgqlU

Future Burnham vs. Past Burnham! EPIC Time Travel Fight! Discovery Season 5 Ep 4

How much TIME has passed since the 900 year LEAP to the FUTURE TIME???

Does anyone know how much OLDER CAPTAIN BURNHAM is supposed to be than the YOUNGER VERSION of herself that she encounters because of the TIME BUG ???

And why is Zora (the ship's AI) so interested in actresses from the 1960's ... like Audrey Hepburn (from the short clip called CALYPSO) ... and Doris Day (we hear her singing a song from her film when Burnham shows up in the FUTURE TIME where she finds the ship full of DUST).

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Lyrics
When I was just a little girl
I asked my mother, "What will I be?
Will I be pretty? Will I be rich?"
Here's what she said to me

"Que será, será
Whatever will be, will be
The future's not ours to see
Que será, será
What will be, will be"

When I grew up and fell in love
I asked my sweetheart, "What lies ahead?
Will we have rainbows day after day?"
Here's what my sweetheart said

"Que será, será
Whatever will be, will be
The future's not ours to see
Que será, será
What will be, will be"

Now I have children of my own
They ask their mother, "What will I be?"
Will I be handsome? Will I be rich?"
I tell them tenderly

"Que será, será
Whatever will be, will be
The future's not ours to see
Que será, será
What will be, will be

Que será, será

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZbKHDPPrrc

Doris Day - Que Sera Sera

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FOUND THIS article:

https://trekmovie.com/2024/04/23/theory-did-star-trek-discovery-finally-resolve-the-calypso-mystery/

three potential possibilities…

THEORY 1: “Calypso” is part of the same alternate future

The first and most obvious explanation is that “Calypso” is a continuation of the possible future shown in “Face the Strange.” The Discovery’s crew are killed by the Breen, who succeed in conquering the Federation. Zora is then left on the deserted ship for the next 1,000 years (which would place it around the 43rd Century), whiling away the centuries listening to Doris Day and watching musicals—in particular, the Fred Astaire/Audrey Hepburn classic Funny Face—until she encounters the character of Craft (Aldis Hodge).

Zora’s musical tastes, the abandoned ship, and the “Zora vision” scenes would definitely suggest “Calypso” as a continuation of this particular future. Since Burnham and the Discovery crew are fighting to find the Progenitors’ technology before Moll and L’ak (and likely to succeed), this would mean that future would cease to exist, and “Calypso” is an intriguing never-to-be alternate future, similar to the outcome of episodes like Voyager’s “Timeless” or Next Generation’s “All Good Things.”

There are however some inconsistencies between the two futures.

Firstly, the version of Discovery seen in “Calypso” is the 23rd-century version, prior to its 32nd-century refit. Most notably, the ship clearly has the original NCC-1031 designation, missing the ‘A’ that was added in the refit. Of course, the obvious, real-world reason is that “Calypso” was made between seasons 1 and 2 of Discovery, before the show’s jump to the future and redesign of the ship. This doesn’t make sense in-universe, but Short Treks has some other canon hiccups, so trying to explain away the missing “A” designation may be asking too much. The ship seen in “Face the Strange” is also in worse condition, but it’s likely Zora had Dots available that could repair the ship.

Another inconsistency is that in “Calypso,” Zora tells Craft “the crew is away at present,” and says she has orders to maintain her current position, which doesn’t match with the events shown in “Face the Strange,” where she clearly stated that the crew had died. However, we don’t know what 1,000 years of isolation may have had on Zora. As a sentient life form, it’s possible by the time of “Calypso” she’s been experiencing some kind of AI senility or has repressed the traumatic memories of the crew’s demise. It’s also possible that she incurred some damage over the centuries, making her misremember the events.

In “Calypso,” Craft states he’s a soldier fighting the “V’draysh,” which is a bastardization of “Federation,” according to Michael Chabon. This doesn’t make sense if the Federation was defeated 1,000 years earlier; would the name still be in use? The name “V’draysh” was used once in the third season of Discovery, where it indeed related to the Federation.

While it’s possible that “Calypso” is a continuation of the alternate timeline established in “Face the Strange,” there are enough inconsistencies that we should consider some alternative scenarios.


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THEORY 2: “Calypso” is Zora’s dream

One new piece of information we find out about Zora in “Face the Strange” is that she dreams. Her first line to Burnham is “Captain, is that you? Or is this another dream?” Although we’ve no idea when this started, it seems the years of isolation coupled with Zora’s continued development have led to her having dreams. Obviously, this isn’t unprecedented in Trek. Data eventually evolved to the stage where he could dream, so it follows that Zora can too.

Could the events of “Calypso” be Zora dreaming of some company after years of isolation? It’s certainly a possibility, and dream logic is a good way of explaining away the inconsistencies, such as the USS Discovery’s appearance and the whereabouts of the crew. “Calypso” was an atypical, sometimes surreal Star Trek story, and having it be a dream does make a degree of sense, with Zora its unreliable narrator.

Zora wonders if she is dreaming in “Face the Strange”

There could also be a clue in the music Zora’s listening to in “Face the Strange.” “Que Sera Sera” is a song about a girl asking her mother about the future and what will happen to her. Is this a hint that the Zora we see past this point is her guessing about her future?

One major argument against the dream theory is that “Calypso” isn’t Zora’s story, it’s Craft’s. It starts with him and follows his time on Discovery and his odd love story with Zora. The story is told from his viewpoint. The only time this switches to Zora’s point of view is at the very end when Craft leaves Discovery and the camera remains behind, revealing Zora has named his shuttlecraft “Funny Face” and then returning to the bridge where Zora is again playing the movie. Although possible, the majority of dreams are in the first person. It would be unusual to dream a story from someone else’s viewpoint where you’re a secondary character. Then again, Zora isn’t human.

Who knows what AIs dream of.

Electric sheep maybe?

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THEORY 3: “Calypso” is still in the future and episodes aren’t linked

It’s also possible that beyond the aforementioned links, the timelines from “Calypso” and “Face the Strange” are not directly linked. Zora’s musical tastes and use of her “Zora Vision” POV is something that will evolve regardless and so the future seen in “Calypso” is still to come. To completely tie it into the canon, some explanation could be made for why the ship had to be de-retrofitted before being abandoned for the best part of 1,000 years. The Discovery team didn’t know season 5 would be their last, so tying up the “Calypso” loose end and directly linking to Discovery’s final fate probably wasn’t a part of the plan.

Whatever will be, will be

There is a nice poetry to the “dream” theory, so that is our preferred way to look at it. The most likely explanation is that we’re not supposed to know. “Calypso” is an intriguing (and, to be honest, beautifully told) look at the Discovery’s possible future. While it’s been hinted at in Discovery, the Short Treks episode probably works best as a fun “what if.” The sequence in “Face the Strange,” besides serving as a warning to Burnham and Rayner of the price of failure in their mission, also offered Sean Cochran and the show’s producers a fun tip of the hat to “Calypso” as well as offering an enigmatic hint as to its connection to Discovery.

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Here's part of another article:

https://screenrant.com/star-trek-discovery-zora-fate-tragic-calypso-ending/

Star Trek: Discovery Makes Zora's Fate Even More Tragic

Zora was forced to watch each and every member of that family leave or die. And rather than move on, she's imprisoned inside the eerily desolate Discovery, surrounded by reminders of the ship's glory days, cut off from all human interaction, and unable to escape. Worst of all, Zora tells Craft that Discovery's captain ordered her to "maintain position," hinting that Zora was deliberately and knowingly left behind - maybe by a deeply reluctant Michael Burnham?

But is Zora's Star Trek: Discovery future straightforward? The Short Treks episodes are canon companion pieces to the main show, but "Calypso" was written before Burnham and co. launched into the far future, creating some inconsistencies.

For example, the abandoned Discovery is the original, pre-season 3 design. Also, Zora's dialogue doesn't neatly align with her rapid evolution in Star Trek: Discovery season 4. That could mean the "Calypso" Zora isn't the same version Kovich just promoted to "sentient life form," and Discovery's current Zora safely departed along with her friends. Or maybe that's just our wishful thinking...


Perhaps the crew created an AI BODY for ZORA like they did for Gray (which was also based upon the other one that's created for PICARD)? Or created a device that enabled Zora to leave the ship (like the one that they created for the HOLOGRAPHIC DOCTOR in VOYAGER ... which enables him to leave the MED LAB and go wherever else he chose to go)???

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In BLADE RUNNER 2049 the character K also purchased a device for holographic JOI so that (like the case with the doctor in VOYAGER) she could also leave his apt and travel around to other places with him.

But then the JEALOUS character LUV also deliberately STEPS on it and KILLS her. 😢😱💀

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