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About Louise Marie Alcott allegedly agreeing to marry Jo because evil sexist society!


This is from another thread, but it's so interesting that I can't help but to start a new thread.

The following quote is from an Elle article:
https://www.elle.com/culture/movies-tv/a30832148/little-women-greta-gerwig-adaptation-louisa-may-alcott/

Jo’s marriage, which was originally written in the back half of the book in a sequel called Good Wives, was written because readers in the 1860s could not understand that a woman wouldn’t marry. In real life, Alcott herself never married. At the end of Gerwig’s film, Jo tries to make the case that her heroine shouldn’t marry. Her editor, Mr. Dashwood (Tracy Letts), pushes back, arguing that fans will want to see the heroine with a husband.

You know the drill: evil men wanted women either married or dead! Pay attention to the "because readers in the 1860s could not understand that a woman wouldn’t marry", we'll go back to that later.

Elle references a New York Times article that interviews Greta Gerwig, the director.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/31/movies/greta-gerwig-little-women.html

Alcott’s readers demanded that Jo end up married — presumably, to the handsome boy-next-door, Laurie — Alcott complied, with a wry twist. In the back half of the book — originally published as a sequel, under the title “Good Wives” — Jo does get married, but not to Laurie. “Jo should have remained a literary spinster,” Alcott wrote to a friend, but she felt so pressured to satisfy expectations that “I didn’t dare refuse & out of perversity went & made a funny match for her,” with an older German professor. The only way Alcott could forge an independent life as a woman was to sell an alternate reality of her life — one in which Jo was not so independent.

It seems that Gerwig was right and evil sexist society would force the heroine to marry (or die), isn't it? Evil men would prevent Jo from being independent!

Well, now, let's check the whole quote by Louise Marie Alcott, without convenient editing.

Jo should have remained a literary spinster, but so many enthusiastic young ladies wrote to me clamorously demanding that she should marry Laurie, or somebody, that I didn’t dare refuse & out of perversity went & made a funny match for her.

It happens that the truth was... that the ones who pressured LMA were young female readers wanting a romantic happy ending!!! However, with some convenient modern-day editing, that become "because readers in the 1860s could not understand that a woman wouldn’t marry".

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Greta Gerwig is so full of shit it's coming out of her movies and interviews.

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Yeap, and what bothers me is that the truth is nothing to be ashamed of. Young female readers wanted a happy ending for Jo... there's nothing wrong with it!! Actually, readers caring about what happens with the characters is a symptom they were involved in the story, which shows LMA was a pro writer. She conceded even though she didn't agree. In general, good writers are more concerned with character's choices making sense.

This is the oldest story in the book: the conflict between readers wanting a happy ending and good writers prioritizing the story and the characters to be coherent. This is not even gender-related. The same has happened lots of times to male writers and male characters.

But hey, Gerwig had to edit the quote to transform it in the usual femiwoke bullshit.

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Female readers still want a happy ending to stories with heroines as the main lead, that's one reason some films made in the past 20 years were so disappointing!

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I think there is a big difference between what the more hardline (vocal) feminists want to see in movies and tv, and what the majority of ordinary women want to see. I remember reading an interview (on a website devoted to feminist tv), with one of the Xena showrunners about the lgbt subtext on Xena. The women who populated the website were of the opinion that the lgbt subtext was one of the reasons Xena was so successful. But the interviewee said that actually all their testing showed that actually the majority of viewers did not like the subtext and wanted Xena and Gabrielle to have boyfriends. The showrunners were, to my memory, quite friendly to the lgbt viewership. It wasn't that they were trying to suppress them or anything. But if you went by what the most vocal and organised viewers thought, then you would end up with a view of "what most viewers want" that was opposite to reality.

I thought that was interesting.

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A happy ending doesn't necessarily mean getting married but I have to say I always thought Jo and Laurie should get married

EVIL GRIN EMOJI!!!!!

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Well, married people are happier, that's a common conclusion in psychological studies about that topic. So getting married (to a non-toxic person) is literally a happy ending (for both, not only for her).

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Great post, kukuxu. The truth prevails! However, as a straight male reader I, too, was rooting for Jo and Laurie to get married. Not because the idea of her being independent was repugnant to my primitive patriarchal ideology or any such nonsense, but because I thought they loved each other and would be happy together. I thought Bhaer was stuffy, but I was content that she was glad to be marrying him.

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Yeah I felt the same. I felt like there was always chemistry between them in the books and Jo just didn't like the way marriage was conceptualised in their society. I also think she felt like she had to look down on Laurie a bit because he was wealthy and she had to have some corresponding way to be above him.

On the other hand, Alcott's decision to have Jo reject Laurie has generated more than a hundred years of people arguing over her book. That's staying power. So from the perspective of an author who wants to be remembered, she probably made a good choice!

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For a women who didn't like romance or marriage. Louise Marie Alcott sure as hell wrote a lot of books about it. Frankly this whole movie felt like some woke bullshit.

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Well, nobody has ever claimed that the readers who wanted Jo to get married were "evil men".
That is your interpretation, but it seems like the article didn't mention the gender of the readers at all.

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