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I don't want to watch more of this, but...

posted 10 months ago by thingmakersback (1258)
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A lot of people seem to like it.
I saw the first season and was put off the show by two things:

The episode that ripped off an Ursula LeGuin story bugged me. It was an obvious attempt to re-cast the story, which is a fable and not science fiction, as old fashioned Trek. Not a success and annoying that they didn't credit LeGuin.

The final "Gorn" story. It was merely annoying that they misused the name Gorn (A species obviously encountered on the fringes of explored space FOR THE FIRST TIME in TOS "Arena") but the tacky knock off of Aliens was just too much.

Am I just going to be wasting my time looking at more of this?

[–] TylerAArse (2706) 10 months ago

Yeah, this show is just messing up continuity..

[–] thingmakersback (1258) 10 months ago

Any hope of continuity vanished a long time ago. Probably before Enterprise. I wish someone would just reboot, with an eye to the Iain Banks "Culture" novels as a reasonable way to do space opera.

[–] Costumer (1798) 10 months ago

Where, precisely?

Author of the Sodality Universe
The Road from Antioch
In the Markets of Tyre
Flight to Lystra
The Theater at Ephesus
The Council on Jerusalem (coming late 2023)

[–] maximmm (3118) 10 months ago

Continuity is not a thing anymore these days - we are in the woke era - history shall be rewritten to fit the new narrative ^^

[–] liscarkat (17011) 10 months ago

Pure "1984".

[–] [deleted] 10 months ago

Good job it's not official canon then. Or it bloody well shouldn't be, anyway.

[–] Sparky (2363) 10 months ago

I tried watching and it isn't doing it for me either. I'll watch another episode but I expect it'll take three more attempts to get through it and I'll be left wondering again what people see in it.

[–] Satan2016 (23824) 10 months ago

1.06 Lift Us Where Suffering Cannot Reach https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14426244/ 7.8*

Trivia: This is a new script based upon an unused Star Trek (1966) script by Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry.

So Gene stole it from LeGuin over 50 years ago. Would be nice to see that script.

[–] thingmakersback (1258) 10 months ago

That is fascinating! I had no idea that Roddenberry had done that... but, it doesn't surprise me. The result is very much an old fashioned Star Trek story, with the unfortunate inexplicable premise that is fine for a fable but embarrassing for science fiction.

[–] Moonglum9 (10807) 10 months ago

The Enterprise show which took place about a century before TOS had them meeting a Gorn, so I guess they've been known about for a while.

[–] thingmakersback (1258) 10 months ago

Just another example of no logical continuity. Enterprise was a mediocre series which was also filled with a lot of ridiculous violations of things established in TOS. The Star Trek universe makes less and less coherent sense with each sequel and prequel.

[–] Dogiswhite (1148) 10 months ago

Which is why they should present this series and other new trek shows as alternate universe or even a total reboot. Look I really like the show but I don't like that Spock already knows Uhura before he became friends with Kirk and had a relationship with Chapel even though in TOS she was the one chasing him, he wasn't interested. Also La'an being an ancestor to Khan and being a crew member didn't sit well with me either. And the portrayal of Pike is very different from TOS. But having said that I like the characters and would appreciate it better if it were an alternate universe show, then they can do whatever they want. Maybe in this series, Kirk never becomes the Captain of the Enterprise...

[–] thingmakersback (1258) 10 months ago

That's probably the best way to look at each Star Trek series, even if they do make claims that there is continuity.

I'd still rather they dumped whole complicated mess and started over with a "Star Trek"ish SF series that could have a nice consistent setting without all the familiar humanoid races and all the annoyingly goofy elements like the Transporter.

Really, get inspired by Iain Banks and give us a setting where we don't have to argue about what sort of "post scarcity" world this is. If you want to abandon the Roddenberry notion of evolved humanity, (and they obviously do) then you could replace it with something believable.

[–] [email protected] (1777) 10 months ago

Laan an ancestor to Khan? Don't you mean descendant?

[–] Dogiswhite (1148) 10 months ago

Yes I meant descendant. If Kirk already knows La'an, meeting Khan in TOS isn't that much of a surprise.

[–] [email protected] (1777) 10 months ago

I disagree. I loved Ent and the same people who hated it hated VO, Ds9 and tng too. They remind me of 1 of the moms in King Solomon's story who would rather have her child cut in half than have him be anything but what she imagined to be her property.

[–] [email protected] (1777) 10 months ago

I actually liked ep6, 1 of the best episodes imo and reminded me on tng/ds9/voy eps. As for it being fable, who cares? These types of stories has been part of ST for 40 years.

[–] ATG6 (3000) 10 months ago

It's the best Star Trek in a long while, much better than Discovery. The show has some good to great characters, from Ortegas to Noonien-Singh to Spock to Pike to Mbenga to Chapel, even if it seems to have sidelined Spock and Pike too much in the second season.

The episodes are hit or miss, but the effects and visuals are great.